Writer Terry Tempest Williams' latest book, "Erosion: Essays of Undoing", grapples with the erosion of democracy, science, compassion, and trust, as her beloved Utah red rock landscape faces oil and gas extraction, and the planet faces destructive warming. At a Good Reads on Earth live event, Williams spoke with Steve Curwood about how science and Native knowledge alike can guide us on a more sustainable path, and why erosion also creates an opportunity for evolution towards a better future. After the interview, Terry responds to audience questions.

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Doctor Turtle, "The Ants Built A City On His Chest", The Double-Down Two-Step, CC BY 4.0

Doctor Turtle, "His Last Share Of The Stars", The Double-Down Two-Step, CC BY 4.0