There are moments that crack something open in you — moments you can't unhear, can't unsee, can't unfeel. For Lori Sugarman Lee, that moment came across a desk from an insurance agent who looked at her years of raising children, moving her family across continents, building communities from scratch, and sustaining a household with fierce devotion — and said, simply, "You're just a housewife. There's no loss." No loss. As if the thousands of hours she had poured into her family, her husband's career, her children's schools, her community organizations, amounted to nothing more than a footnote. That sentence didn't break Lori. It lit her on fire.
A former marketing director for Four Seasons Hotels and Resorts who had deliberately stepped away from a high-powered career to invest in her family, Lori had never once doubted the value of that choice — until society handed her its verdict. What followed was a journey of profound reinvention: she found Eve Rodsky's Fair Play system, took a Stanford course on Motherhood and Work, wrote a viral LinkedIn article called "I Don't Get Paid, So What Am I Worth?" — and then asked herself the most important question of all: What can I do that no one else is doing? The answer was a children's book. Not because her sons needed a bedtime story, but because she believed, deeply, that if we want to change how the next generation values care — how our daughters are treated, how our sons show up — we have to start before the patterns calcify. Our Home: The Love, Work and Heart of Family is that book. It's tender and illustrated and deceptively simple, and it is, at its core, a revolution wrapped in a picture book.
In this conversation, Lori and Olivia explore what it truly means to value the invisible — the labor that keeps families alive and thriving but so rarely gets named, let alone celebrated. They talk about representation and why seeing your own family reflected in the pages of a book can quietly change a child's entire worldview. They talk about raising boys who understand that care is not a burden to be avoided but a gift to be given. And they talk about the cycle — the one that places the full weight of domestic life on daughters, generation after generation — and why a book, of all things, might be exactly the right tool to break it. If you've ever felt unseen in your own home, if you've ever wondered whether the work you do matters, or if you're raising children you hope will build a more equitable world — this episode is for you.