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Nat and Ang continue their Women’s History Month exploration of all things feminism. This time, their focus is the newly released and fabulous book, Mean Girl Feminism: How White Feminists Gaslight, Gatekeep, and Girlboss!

In their wide-ranging conversation with author Kim Hong Nguyen, the gals ask some burning questions. Just who exactly is a mean girl? Is her name Karen, perchance? Is she young or old? Is she racist? Maybe even religious? And whoever the heck she is, how do we stop her takeover of feminism?

Resource

Kim Hong Nguyen, Mean Girl Feminism: How White Feminists Gaslight, Gatekeep, and Girlboss!

Additional Music

Turquoise Moon, Soulful Jazz Piano Transition

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     The best laid plans can and often do go awry. But the best prepared gals always have a backup plan. Maybe even two.
     The previously announced interview with Kim Hong Nguyen is slightly delayed, but is now in post production and will be out soon! The good news is that, right on schedule, here’s a new episode. The other good news is that you get to hear Nat and Ang in all their stream of consciousness glory. Everything they have to say is prompted by a single, measly set of scribblings, all of which fit on a post-it note! The conversation flits about like monarchs on a milkweed. And then, just like that, it’s over. Is that what they mean by “winging it?"

Resource:
Fundie Baby Voice Instagram

Music: 
Irish Dance by zozo

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No, not that one. 

FEMINISM. 

Yes, that one. 

In this episode, we share responses to our sophisticated survey questions: 

What the heck is feminism? Are you one? How come? 

(Ok, maybe they were more sophisticated than that.) But the results are clear! Feminism is just as messy and wonderful and crucial and misunderstood as ever . . . you’ll have to tune in for the deets though. What the young'uns and their elders have to say about each other at the Intersection of Gender and Age is a must listen.

PS: Apologies for the click bait-y title. The Zoomer won that round. But here’s the Boomer having the last word. Mwahahaha! (And yes, said Boomer looked up how to spell “evil laugh.”)

Resources and Survey Responses:

Feminist and Anti-Feminist Identification in the 21st Century 
Listeners Have a Few Things to Say about Feminism (survey responses)
Feminism is for Everybody
UNWomen, New Feminist Activism: Waves and Generations
Sarah Pruitt, What are the Four Waves of Feminism?
Muskaan Arshad, Girlboss, Gaslight, Gatekeep in a Capitalistic World
Lisa Jervis The End of Feminism’s Third Wave
Why Bitch Media Closed Shop According to Andi Zeisler
GlobalWE (Women's Empowerment)

Episode-specific music credits:

“Storytime Music Box” by Humans Win
“Together We March” and “Serene Guitar Ambience in Nature,” both by The Turquoise Moon

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Part 2 of Nat and Ang’s exploration of Whiteness. This time the sources are less bookish, except for Caste, written by Isabel Wilkerson, a national treasure and, well, QUEEN. Check out our resources list to see how scintillating this episode is.

Resources:
Leslie Jones The Racism Spectrum (video)
Saroful How to Survive in Intersectional Feminist Spaces 101 (blog)
John Scalzi Straight White Male  (blog)
Origin
Isabel Wilkerson Caste: The Origin of our Discontent
Ava DuVernay Restages History in Origin (video)
Isabel Wilkerson interview
Dwight Garner review of Caste
Mental Health America: Systemic Racism and the White Racial Frame (pdf)
The Problem with Jon Stewart (interview with I. Wilkerson)
Michelle Norris The Race Card Project (essay)
     The Race Card Project Website
     Our Hidden Conversations (book)

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The gals decided to honor Black History Month. Playwrights came to mind as usual—Lorraine Hansberry, August Wilson, Suzan-Lori Parks. Great writers and thinkers: Toni Morrison, Maya Angelou, Audre Lorde, James Baldwin. Visual artists like. . .

Hold up.

What can White/White passing gals really add to the Black History Month conversation? Not a lot, they figured. So, Nat and Ang decided to explore what makes a Black History Month necessary. Namely, a whole lot of Whiteness going on. A blinding kind of Whiteness. A racial identity all its own that most White people don’t even think of as “race.” As the gals grapple with the privilege Whiteness affords them in America, they get help along the way from some of the best––Robin DiAngelo, bell hooks, Peggy McIntosh, and so many others. One episode just isn’t enough. More to come in part 2!

Resources:
April Baker-Bell, Linguistic Justice
Robin DiAngelo: "White Fragility "(essay); White Fragility (book); "What's My Complicity" (interview)
Peggy McIntosh, "White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack"
Ruth Frankenberg, White Women Race Matters
bell hooks, "Interlocking Systems of Domination" (video); "The Oppositional Gaze" (essay)
National Museum of African American History and Culture, Whiteness
Smithsonian Magazine, 158 Resources for Understanding Systemic Racism in America | History |
Additional music: 
"Nocturne Alley" by Gerardo Garcia, Jr.
"Thinking Over the Idea" by Volodymyr Piddubnyk 

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"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)

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Wellness, that is. Mental wellness, to be exact. Thriving even though it may be very January where you are. Even though holidays are few and far between now. Even though you might prefer to hibernate this time of year like a lot of other creatures do.

For National Mental Wellness month Nat and Ang consider what the pros have to say about mental wellness and how to get and/or keep it. As they reflect on the depths and pinnacles of their own wellness journeys, the gals per usual turn to inspiration from a few artsy-litsy types as, um, well. 

RESOURCES 

Mental Health America history & 2023 Annual Report & Facts

Richard Sima, Feeling Nostalgia …

Kate Moore, The Woman They Could Not Silence 

Charlotte Perkins Gilman, The Yellow Wallpaper

Sarah Kane, 4.48 Psychosis 

Halsey, Manic 

Music transition #5: "Romantic Memories Theme," SFX

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Feeling blah about your New Year’s Resolutions? Good luck with that. Had just about enough Best-of-This and Worst-of-That reviews? We can help you with that!

In this episode, Natalia and Angela take on 2023. But don’t expect a numbered list or polite conversation. This rearview mirror view of 2023 is about sex, religion, and politics. Find out what gob smacking things in each of these taboo topic areas they are still processing in 2024 and likely will be for years to come.

Notes
Depp v Heard
Christine Emba Men are Lost . . . a Map Out of the Wilderness & readers' reactions
Isabel Cristo Woman in Retrograde
Monica Potts The Forgotten Girls & review
Religious Trauma Institute
Recovering from Religion
Spiritual Harm and Abuse Scale
Preacher’s Daughter (Cain)
@texaspaulschroder and @tglnyc
R Graham . . .United Methodist Church Breaks Up
N Bolz-Weber Shameless
5 Things to know. . .latest abortion case in Texas 
Southlake; Grapevine
Trump Mugshot Memes
Dan Jones Powers and Thrones 

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Technical consultant, Tim Godby
Music (for regular episodes):
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"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)

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What’s Christmas without a dab of doubt, a smidge of heresy, maybe even a dash of Greek mythology? Not much of a Christmas at all, if you ask Angela and Natalia. These nice and occasionally naughty evangelical preachers’ daughters prove why book banning is so popular these days and how the road to perdition almost always starts in a theatre. They ponder the essential questions of Christmas—virginity, the role of eggnog in worship, polytheism, and what makes some evangelicals so pushy. For added bliss, Christmassy tunes pop up when you least expect them.

Whatever you believe or don’t believe about Christmas, this episode will have you humming and smirking your way through even the most awkward mixed-faith holiday gatherings.

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 Sources: 

“exvangelical” @brchastain_  on Instagram
Ready to Harvest on YouTube   
What is an Evangelical? National Association of Evangelicals
Statement(s) of Faith, National Association of Evangelicals
Beliefs about the historical accuracy of Christmas, Pew Research Center
Comparison of beliefs in climate change and the story of Jesus’ birth Time Magazine
The Bacchae of Euripides (play)
Dionysus (god of wine, harvest, and revelry/ecstasy)
The Wakefield Second Shepherd’s Play
A Grateful Heart: Daily Blessings for the Evening Meal from Buddha to the Beatles 

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Music/Sound Credits: 

“Festive Party” Amber Waldron 
“Musical Bells Chime Christmas Joy to the World” sound effect 
“Marry Christmas” MoodMode 
“Silent Night Vintage Christmas Jazz” Volodymyr Piddubnyk 
“Jazzy Holiday” Amber Waldron 

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     Natalia and Angela, two country gals with big city aspirations, talk about how places shape us. They celebrate and critique their own "backwoods" origins in an episode packed with riffs on rural life and art: country music, political signs,  woodsy adventures, red-neckery, church, tractors, even Andrew Wyeth!
     The girls have questions, so many questions. Are we mostly just a big cluster of all the places we've been? Is living just shapeshifting––becoming who you are, where you are, then figuring out how to adapt everywhere else you go? Can we ever really feel at home again once we leave "home" behind?
     Don't expect answers to these hard questions! Do expect to encounter wild, wonderful, and not-so-wonderful examples of country life plus some shoutouts to a few of the girls' favorite "backwoods 'n forwards" heroines.

Episode notes:
Carrie Chapman Catt/League of Women Voters
Kimberle Crenshaw/Intersectionality
Joyce Sutphen, "Girl on a Tractor"
Despoina Tsoli, “Andrew Wyeth’s ‘Christina’s World’: A Closer Look” 
Timothy Egan, Fever in the Heartland: The Ku Klux Klan's Plot to Take Over America and the Woman Who Stopped Them (Madge Oberholtzer)
Blaire Erskine (Instagram)
 
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What does it feel like to be young? To be old? What are the perils and pleasures of aging, at any stage of life? Natalia and Angela ponder the mysteries of the ultimate identity spectrum, age. And yes, Zoomers and Boomers both get some backlash as well as love.


Show notes:
With great respect and admiration for Rosalynn Carter (1927-2023). RIP
The Hidden Moral Injury of "Ok Boomer," by David French
"Ok Boomer" Marks the End of Friendly Generational Relations by Taylor Lorenz
Generation Z: self-absorbed or just self-aware" by Sam Heilmann: https://alleghenycampus.com/22546/opinion/generation-z-self-absorbed-or-just-self-aware/
Nyad (film)

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Technical consultant, Tim Godby
Music (for regular episodes):
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"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)