In this episode, I speak with Aaron James, a philosophy professor who's also an avid surfer.

As a lifelong Buddhist myself and an avid scuba diver with a profound connection to the ocean, I was interested in exploring what deeper meanings a philosopher might find simply by being in the ocean. What I found was not only was Aaron thoughtful and open, and very smart, he was also a lot of fun to talk to.

And he shared his story of why he connects to the ocean, what it meant to be a surfer, and how one single wave in his life encapsulated the entirety of his experience.

Scuba Diving, Free Diving, Ocean Environmentalism, Surfing, and Marine Science.

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