In this episode, Kimi and Christy talk about Kimi's interview with Sue Klebold. Sue is the mother of Dylan Klebold, one of the two shooters at the Columbine Massacre. She shares her experience of being plucked from a journalism class at CU Boulder to work with reporters on the frontlines of this historical and heartbreaking story.

Additionally, they discuss their biggest takeaways and lessons learned from Sue Klebold, a hard-earned expert on adolescent suffering. They also discuss the importance of listening, rather than fixing, and why allowing your kids to "sit in their discomfort" can be both hard and essential. Kimi and Christy were equally moved by Sue's story and think her message is needed now more than ever.

Today's episode is sponsored by All The Happier, a new online course inspired by the lessons you hear on the podcast.

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