In this episode, Andrew Davies talks with Marcus Hellyer on the costs of the Future Submarine project and discusses the current long range strike debate.

Mali interviewed Natalie Sambhi on the recent appointment of Prabowo Subianto as Indonesia's Defence Minister.

Genevieve chats with John Coyne on the impact of his recent report on the future security of Australia's north.

Links:

https://www.aspi.org.au/report/strong-and-free-future-security-australias-north

https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/indonesias-defence-and-foreign-policy-and-widodos-new-look-cabinet/

People in this episode:

Dr Andrew Davies: https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/andrew-davies

Dr Marcus Hellyer: https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/marcus-hellyer

Natalie Sambhi: https://www.ververesearch.org/our-team1

Mali Walker: https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/mali-walker

Dr John Coyne: https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/john-coyne

Genevieve Feely: https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/genevieve-feely

Music in this episode: "Biggie" by Albis - via the You Tube Audio Library