Charlie provides an in-depth discussion of WISE MIND as used in DBT. What is it, why is it so valuable, what are perspectives on it, what are its features, how do you access it and use it? He then discusses a painful example from his own life when he needed wise mind but failed to access it.

In a manner that is absolutely true to these words from her DBT and life mentor, Seth Axelrod, Andrea Gold has completed her one year of prescribed treatment for breast cancer, with the best results one can hope for. Tune in to this episode to hear Andrea celebrate the completion of the year and reflect upon how she managed the suffering (a lot) and created fun and connection through it all (a lot). She brings an infectious and intelligent enthusiasm, an emotional and affiliative personality, and a bad-ass exposure and DBT lifestyle, to rather grim cancer-related events: diagnosis, staging, mastectomy, radiation, chemotherapy, and survivorship. Listen, connect, reflect...learn from her.

In part 2 of the conversation with world class trainer Cem Eren, join Charlie and Nicole and enter the Lion's Den, a practice environment thoughtfully constructed to support our training journey from the moment we step through the door until the moment we step out of it. As we tour the space, we hear how unconditional acceptance underlies Cem's strategy for facilitating positive change, and how his intuitive application of dialectics translates to clients consistently hitting huge goals and making extraordinary transformations.

In part one of a two-part conversation, Charlie and Nicole seek to discover the secret to world class trainer, Cem Eren's two decade career where he inspires greatness in everyone from first time gym goers, to elite NBA athletes, with tireless consistency and contagious joy. Sharing anecdotes about work with his clients, Cem gives insight into his own embodied mindset, providing a template for accessible and generous excellence that extends far beyond the weight rack and boxing ring.

"In this episode, Nicole and Charlie tap into the wisdom that Cem Eren has gained from two decades of training elite NBA athletes, boxers, bodybuilders, beauty contestants, and ordinary humans of all ages. In examples that extend to therapy and coaching, Cem shares how he meets his clients every single day with freshness, compassion, dignity, and nonjudgmental presence, helping them connect with their strengths while building toward their goals.