On this episode, James Orlando from Fatto a Mano joins Alex Koons at the Pizza Expo in Las Vegas for a hilarious and wide-ranging conversation. Along with Chelsea and Samantha, James shares the fascinating story of starting his wood-fired pizza business in Oahu, Hawaii.

He recounts the ups and downs, from destroying his first pizza oven to getting recognized by Food & Wine magazine as having the best pizza in the state. James opens up about his journey getting sober and how it transformed his life and business.

The group swaps stories from their time working together in chaotic restaurant kitchens and reflects on what it takes to succeed as an entrepreneur. James explains his vision for expanding to a slice shop and pasta bar, and the crew geeks out about everything from flour hydration to their favorite musicians.

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