We are joined by Al Shalloway. We talk about Agile mostly, but we finally get to talk about SAFE. You can contact Al at al.shalloway at successengineering dot works

It's our last episode of 2021, so we take some time to reflect on the last year, look forward into the next year.

It's our 150th episide. With absolutely zero celebration or anything else special, we ramble our way through discussions on Customer-Centric Monitoring, Alan's 3 biggest accomplishments in 2021, and our favorite video games.

We talk a little about work place perks (for reasons unknown), and then talk more about the new fun challenges with Alan's new org.

Eventually, we talk about how we could gear the Modern Testing Principles more towards development teams.

We attempt to talk about coaching and quality coaching...and we do - mostly.

We chat a bit about the rise (?) of Modern Testing practices in the industry, and then look at a few TestSphere cards - and eventually end up talking a whole lot about data.

We kick off the episode with 5 painful minutes of discussion on Brent's hernia surgery before making it into a discussion on fairness, diversity, psychological safety, and other stuff. And we talk about a lot of books.

We talk a bit about Alan's recent AMA on the future of test automation and then about his past with Microsoft Teams.

We dive (wade? splash??) into some listener questions on Theory of Constraints applied to different aspects of software development and Modern Testing.