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David Anderson (Co-Founder and COO at SellingInnovations) joined Eric Gruber and Kristina Jaramillo to discuss how GTM teams can drive greater stage progression and avoid accounts going dark - an issue that many companies like Uniphore struggle with today. 

Listen to this podcast to see how you can enable buyers to overcome their fear of risk, failure, disruption and spiraling costs. Learn how you can help buyers become uncomfortable in their current situation -- and comfortable with making change. 

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On this ABM Done Right Podcast episode, Eric Gruber sits down with Jodie Lail (Revenue Marketing Leader at GE Healthcare) to discuss why teams need a revenue marketing organization if they are engaging in ABM. 

Eric also digs into the GE Healthcare ABM program and discusses what's working for them - and where there are opportunities to have a stronger revenue impact. 

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Twice in a row, Angie Assennato, Senior Director of Growth Marketing at Signifyd, came into a marketing team that was already doing ABM but was getting limited returns.  In this podcast, she discusses with Kristina Jaramillo and Eric Gruber the challenges they had, the reasons behind the failing programs and how intent data/ABM tech were not effectively being leveraged. As leadership at Signifyd also wants to go upmarket, we'll also discuss the changes that need to be made to engage and close higher-value deals. 

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Marta George, Head of EMEA ABM at Ping Identity, joined Eric Gruber and Kristina Jaramillo on the ABM Done Right Podcast to discuss the change management that needed to happen for them to win with their big bets, what their 1:few and 1:1 ABM program look like for their big bets and how they select their big bets. 

She also talked about the need to scale back to scale up the impact you have on revenue with your big bets.

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Megan Bowen (CEO of Refine Labs) mentioned  on LinkedIn 

"The most important discipline that mid-market and enterprise B2B SaaS companies need to be cultivating is...Change management This is especially true for successful companies that have been around for 1-2 decades, that have been able to more easily manage the recent turbulence in B2B SaaS over the last few years and are still executing an outdated GTM strategy

The relative success of companies at this stage is hiding GTM inefficiencies so many don’t even perceive it’s a problem. This is the biggest risk for these companies - they are not seeing and acknowledging this is a real threat to their long term survival. If companies don’t start to change now, their ability to grow sustainably will degrade with increasing speed"

At Personal ABM, we believe that change goes beyond evolving just the digital marketing strategies and it must include a mindset shift, a measurement shift and changes across the entire GTM strategy and execution. The issue we often see  is that GTM teams retrofit ABM on top of existing sales/marketing processes, content, messaging and experiences. They make it about better targeting vs. changing the account experiences that are delivered. ABM should change...

• How you think about your business
• How you differentiate from competitors
• How you package your solutions
• How you communicate your value
• How you engage buyers across the organization across the buyiong journey and customer lifecycle
• How you structure your GTM teams
• How you win, protect and expand accounts as 1 team
• How you measure success.
• Plus much more...

During this episode, Kristina Jaramillo, Eric Gruber and Joel Harrison (Founder and Editor-at-Large at B2B Marketing) discuss the changes that ABM should bring. 

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In this ABM Done Right Podcast episode, Peter Mollins (a 2X guest on the podcast and CMO of Nooks) joined Eric Gruber to discuss the "signals" that GTM teams should pay attention to that go beyond intent data. 

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On LinkedIn, Kristina Jaramillo and Eric Gruber have been talking a lot about teams not being ABM-ready. They are simply retrofitting ABM on top of existing processes, content, messaging etc -- and they are not making the changes they need to land and expand high-value accounts.  As a result, they struggle with accounts going dark. They struggle with accounts becoming stuck or disengaged,. They struggle with accounts churning. 

Within this podcast, Mark Osborne and Eric Gruber talk about the GTM assessment that needs to be done before you even think about ABM,  

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At Personal ABM, we believe that ABM is not really about accounts. Everyone focuses on tiering, segmentation and prioritization of accounts but ABM is really about improving the interactions that teams have with the human buyers in the accounts we want to win, protect and expand. It's about improving the account experience for these human buyers.

In this podcast, Sal Vilardo at Maverick Solutions talks with Personal ABM CEO (Eric Gruber) on how GTM teams can humanize ABM. You will learn:

1. How ABM programs are going sideways because they focus on the "brand" or the organization (the larger picture) and most GTM teams forget about the people within the account we need to engage. They're missing the human aspect on what the buyers think about, care about, want, need -- and how they interact. If you are not connecting with the people in the right way - you have a great chance of losing despite how aligned you are with the organization.

2. We need to put a stronger focus on "buyer enablement" as teams are losing the internal conversation and it's because teams do not have the right content, messaging, stories or the business case where each buyer sees how the gaps impact them personally, each of the contributors, and the collective business. We need to help buyers evaluate information, prioritize various sources,  quantify trade-offs while helping the buyers come to their own conclusion on why they need you to fix their challenges, fill their gaps, and achieve their strategic objectives. 

3. Teams are not thinking about that month or so where buyers "say" they'll move forward and they are going through legal processes or conversations with the CFO. Too many times, sales and marketing teams go dark during this time or follow up with continual check-ins vs. giving them the resources they need for conversations with the CFO and legal or giving them the resources to help them get things in order for onboarding. Again, it's about enabling the buyers. 

4. Why Sal hates intent and why he says it's a lagging indicator. With all the tools that are pulling intent from different places, everyone is using it. You run off the same information that everyone else has and in many cases, the intent is lagging behind action by the time it gets to us. Because the platforms are capturing intent, it doesn't mean that the process stopped between when it was captured and when it was delivered. Also, if they are showing intent, then they most likely have their short-list selected and they have predefined needs which automatically result in smaller deal sizes. Intent is also not predictive of an account landing and expanding with you. We need to understand the account story and the buyers within that account.

5.  Most GTM teams are not thinking about the cohesiveness of the account experience throughout the buyer's journey and customer lifecycle. We have to think about the cohesive experience that Disney provides that makes every touchpoint and interaction feel magical. Disney understands that the experience that one team delivers that will impact the experiences that the other teams deliver. It's the same thing when it comes to ABM. If sales and marketing teams do not create the right account and buyer experience then customer success teams will have a challenging time trying to retain and expand the accounts. 

6. Marketing needs to be able to provide thought processes and insights to allow other teams to further cast the buying vision with target accounts and their buyers. This is where account insights and understanding the account story is important. It's about giving content for specific sales conversations and internal conversations. It's about providing the account POV so teams can come to each buyer interactions with a POV about their business. It's about sharing

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David Keene, the European CMO for Wipro, recently joined Eric Gruber (CEO of Personal ABM) on the ABM Done Right Podcast to discuss his ABM hot takes including:

1. How ABM shouldn't replace demand gen and brand marketing pillars.

2. How we shouldn't think so much about MQLs or even MQAs and how we need a narrow view of the funnel where we are focused on accounts that have a very low chance of losing and a very high chance of moving to revenue at a high ACV 

3. How 1:1 ABM is about the people inside the accounts we want to land and expand so it's important to incorporate personality-based marketing into your ABM program.

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Honni Marks (1:1 Strategic ABM Lead at Red Hat) joined Eric Gruber on the ABM Done Right Podcast to discuss:

1. What it means to take a strategic 1:1 ABM approach.
2. The role 1:1 ABM should play in an account-based GTM program and how it should be used to expand key accounts.
3. The executive engagement that's needed for a 1:1 ABM program and how we should enable executive engagement teams.
4. How to leverage data to tell the account story
5. The 1:1 ABM content that's needed.