Sofie talks to American comedian Cameron Esposito about reliving trauma for art, queer therapy, gender norms, being treated like a novelty, the democratisation of comedy, tweaking the google search results for 'rape jokes' with a one hour show, the #metoo movement, making sure the story stays with the survivor, knowing your creative strengths, work ethic, fusing art and business, extending the boundary of safety, marriage equality, editing ourselves, the reality of podcasting, Queery, being in a field where it's shameful to talk about money, feeling like you need to be tough, taking breaks and the many forms of self-care.

Trigger warning – sexual assault

Artwork by Linda Brinkhaus

Jingle by Bailey Lenart

Produced by Sarah Garvey

A huge thanks to Phoenix Artist Club in London for letting me record my podcast and do my shows with them. Special thanks to Peter Dunbar.

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