"When people dream of being a Cast Member or a Park Ranger it's less about the pay and more about being part of something special."

Notable Moments

2:13 – Going from urban planning to Disney to traveling the backroads of America.

4:30 – Similarities between theme parks and natural parks

7:37 – Why uniforms tell stories too

13:35 – The "dream job" appeal of park rangers and Disney cast members

17:16 – Three threads Sam sees across Disney, Universal, and parks

19:25 – How parks decide what story to tell

25:08 – The "layer cake" of storytelling

27:40 – Freeman Tilden's principle of provocation

29:36 – Mr. Toad's Wild Ride as a parable

This conversation with author and urban planner Sam Gennawey explores the surprising similarities between theme parks and national parks. Jody Maberry and Sam discuss how stories are layered, why interpretation matters, and what makes an experience stay with us long after it's over.

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