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In this podcast I deconstruct the romanticism holding up the family policing industry and expose the lies, abuse, and pain that gets silenced. I'm here to unwrap the shiny bow around adoption and s
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Keshia
The child welfare system is waging war on Black families, and Keshia Adeniyi-Dorsey is on the front lines. In this episode, she shares her journey from foster child to family defender, exposing the racist roots of CPS and the urgent need for change.
Keisha breaks down her tactics for protecting families during CPS investigations, from refusing home entry to shutting down fishing expeditions. Her success rates are fantastic: 95.8% of parental rights protected and 93.7% of families reunified.
"We already know, and we've already done in the past, like, right? Like, took care of ourselves, we took care of everybody else's kids too, right? We don't need the system to do it."
What we discussed
(00:23) Meet Keshia Adeniyi-Dorsey
(01:37) Adoptions and Safe Families Act
(06:08) Reality of CPS investigations
(12:17) Protecting families during CPS investigations
(17:11) Reuniting 93.7% of families
(23:46) Challenges of advocating for families OR Dealing with incompetence
(28:56) We don’t need police for that OR The color of the system OR Black families don’t need CPS OR We don’t need help OR Not everyone needs help
(35:33) Affording counsel
(43:39) Truth to power
Links
Connect with Keshia: Website | LinkedIn
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Credits
Special thanks to Samuel Oyedele for editing our podcast, support his work on Instagram or e-mail him at [email protected]
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Benjamin
Words matter. Especially when it comes to adoption. Benjamin Lundberg Torres Sanchez isn't just "adopted" - they were separated from their first family for 28 years.
In this episode, we unpack how the language we use shapes our understanding of adoption. Benjamin shares their journey of rejecting industry terminology and embracing more accurate descriptions of their experience.
We discuss how this shift in language opens up new possibilities for solidarity and political action.
"I think it's just really important to name what happened to us."
What we discussed
(00:22) Who is Benjamin Lundberg Torres Sanchez?
(01:41) Conceived in violence
(04:58) Adoption day
(07:23) Good experiences but still angry OR Good vs. bad adoptions
(10:10) Learning to think critically about adoption OR Language of adoption
(14:35) Being hungry for community OR Availability of light skinned children
(18:56) Not only focusing on adoptees OR Adoptees are not alone
(26:46) Organized abandonment
(28:30) We Are Holding This Magazine
(37:46) Intersectionality vs. isolation
(44:12) Finding alternative power brokers OR Finding power brokers
(48:14) Get curious
(51:32) Support Benjamin
Links
We Are Holding This Magazine
Benjamin’s website
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Henry
What happens when a Black child is adopted into a white Mormon family?
The Mormon church silenced Henry's identity as a Black transracial adoptee, but he's done being quiet. From "colorblind" racism to the weight of forced gratitude, he exposes the ugly truth behind his adoption.
We explore the impact of media representation, the importance of acknowledging adoptee anger, and why abolishing the current system might be the only way forward.
Henry shares his journey of finding community with other adoptees and reclaiming his voice.
"My life was really to fill this hole in my parents' life instead of my parents being there to raise children.
What we discussed
(00:22) Who is Henry?
(01:48) Coming out of the fog
(03:52) Adopted through the mormon church
(06:34) Growing up with adopted sisters
(08:26) Adoptees vs. adoptive parents on This is Us OR Adoptees vs. Adoptive parents on TV
(13:23) Expectation of gratefulness OR “I want someone to love me”
(20:26) Being allowed to feel & express
(23:21) Alternatives to family policing OR Mind your own business
(26:02) Relationship with adoptive parents while being abolitionist
(32:27) Find your inner voice
Links
Black Adoptee Facebook Group
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Credits
Special thanks to Samuel Oyedele for editing our podcast, support his work on Instagram or e-mail him at [email protected]
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Fai Knudson
Fai Knudson grew up in a white, conservative town, always feeling different. As a biracial, transracial adoptee, Faye faced racism and isolation.
Leaving their hometown ignited a journey of self-discovery, leading to advocacy and therapy focused on adoptee mental health.
In this episode, Fai shares their powerful story, the challenges of being a transracial adoptee, and how they now help others navigate similar paths.
What we discussed
(00:18) Who is Fai Knudson?
(04:05) Feeling different
(05:32) Not allowed to read adoption paperwork
(06:30) Coming out of the fog
(09:11) Studying adoption for master’s
(13:53) Adoptee therapists
(21:32) Adoptee care is neglected
(28:12) Story behind “Good Faith Therapy”
(33:20) Support for adoptees
(35:01) Genetic graveyard
(36:24) Finding an adoptee affirming therapist
(39:34) Partial reunion
(47:54) Finding your authentic self
Links
Connect with Fai Knudson: LinkedIn
Good Faith Therapy Website | Good Faith Therapy Instagram
Peer Support Space
Grow Beyond Words
Journey of The Adopted Self
Psychology Today
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Credits
Special thanks to Samuel Oyedele for editing our podcast, support his work on Instagram or e-mail him at [email protected]
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1 Year of No Contact
It's been 365 days since I cut ties with my adopters to protect myself.
A year of healing, self-discovery, and finding my voice.
In this episode, I share my no contact journey, the reasons behind my decision, the process of healing, and the freedom I’ve found.
Hear my story of setting boundaries, seeking safety, and reclaiming my identity.
What we discussed
(00:24) 1 year of no contact
(01:50) “but they’re your parents” OR Expectation to be grateful
(04:17) How I felt after no contact
(06:21) Family policing gaslit me
(11:20) Forgiveness as a weapon
(14:36) Becoming free, finally
(18:01) Getting tattoos (& my favorite one)
(20:26) Being able to grieve my mom
(30:56) Healing by finding biological family
(34:38) Stealing me from my mom
(36:12) #1 reason for child removal
(39:43) Why I do this work
Links
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Credits
Special thanks to Samuel Oyedele for editing our podcast, support his work on Instagram or e-mail him at [email protected]
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Amanda Wallace
Amanda Wallace helps families powerfully stop Child Protective Services from stealing their children. In this episode she talk about how you can do it too, how her organization reunited 20+ families, and why we should abolish the belief that the CPS system should even exist.
Listen and let’s stop CPS.
What we discussed
(00:22) Who is Amanda Wallace?
(01:25) Why she wants to stop CPS - Child Protective Services
(05:16) Why are you in my house?!
(06:32) Repealing the Child Abuse Prevention & Treatment Act + Adoption & Safe Familis Act
(08:12) How to respond to CPS
(11:29) Reuniting 20 families
(15:32) Reparations are not enough
(18:08) Black Mother’s March (Collective power)
(23:07) Drug testing a birth & Interrogating children
(24:42) Creative collabs for collective action
(26:50) How can you stop CPS?
(33:07) Freedom can happen in our lifetime OR Freedom is not complicated
Links
Respond In Power Guide
Black Mother’s March
Twisted Yogi
Connect with Amanda Wallace: Stop CPS Website | Instagram | Tiktok
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Credits
Special thanks to Samuel Oyedele for editing our podcast, support his work on Instagram or e-mail him at [email protected]
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Abolition is Not A Part Of God’s Plan
People who adopt say it’s God’s plan for them to adopt. But, they almost never say that God’s plan is for them NOT to have children. This is just one of the many ways people use religion to justify human trafficking.
I found out, through an archived article, that I was trafckied into adoption by the Church through the One Church, One Child movement which operates in 32 states. This is an episode about them and the harm they’ve caused, in the name of God.
What we discussed
(00:22) Is adoption God’s plan?
(04:23) Forcing adoptees to go to church OR “Go to church or leave”
(11:53) Making adoptees mini versions of them
(13:04) Telling my adoptive parents I’m stepping away from the church
(14:51) One Church, One Child business
(20:36) The church trafficked me
(28:39) Orphan sundays
(30:07) Church preaches family separation (hypocritical?)
(34:24) Forced assimilation
(36:13) Adoption is not God’s plan
Links
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Credits
Special thanks to Samuel Oyedele for editing our podcast, support his work on Instagram or e-mail him at [email protected]
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Mila's Truth: Navigating Adoption, Liberation, and Community
The Church does an excellent job of silencing you if you oppose them. They’d even hire a marketing company to rebrand adoption so that their business as adoption middlemen can continue to thrive. But, it’s not just the Church. The dominant culture is to silence anyone who speaks up against adoption. To make them feel shame. To gaslight them. That was Mila Konomos’ experience once she realized how adoption has wounded her.
Mila tells her story of how she was forcibly removed from her family in 1975 to the realization in 2009 that everything she thought she knew about adoption was a lie. She discusses how reuniting with her biological parents changed everything, how similar she realized she was hto her bio parents, grappling with her identity, the power of speaking up, and the cultural resistance against accepting the truth about adoption.
Mila is the host of the podcast called Everything You Think You Know About Adoption Is A Lie.
“If you don't change the narrative, then you can't change the policies.”
What we discussed
(00:22) Who is Mila Kanomos?
(01:39) Being a (clueless) grateful adoptee
(04:25) Realizing I’m actually wounded
(06:00) “You had this information all of my life?!”
(08:24) The Last Unicorn
(12:55) Terrified of opposing adoption publicly
(15:50) The Church is complicit
(18:23) Propaganda around adoption
(19:38) Surviving reunion
(22:04) How do I become Korean?
(25:39) Biological traits & connections
(30:55) Everything you know about adoption is a lie
(36:43) Church PAID to rebrand adoption
(41:03) Centering adoptee narratives
(44:47) Adoption IS oppression
(49:03) What can you do about this?
(55:51) You already know who you are
Links
Everything You Think You Know About Adoption Is A Lie Podcast
Child Catchers by Catherine Joyce
Connect with Mila: Instagram | Podcast Instagram
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Credits
Special thanks to Samuel Oyedele for editing our podcast, support his work on Instagram or e-mail him at [email protected]
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My Journey To Abolition
Every adult in my childhood has failed me, none of them did what they’re supposed to. Every part of the system failed me…it did exactly what it’s supposed to. The system kills children and breaks families, it must be abolished. In this episode, I share how I gradually evolved towards this deep belief starting from a school trip to juvie when I was just 10. I talk about my encounters with the family policing system growing up and how it failed me.
My story is not an is not an anomaly or an isolated incident. This is the experience of many children who are victims of the family policing system that they carry with them through adulthood.
Abolition is a journey toward collective liberation, this is my journey so far…
[CW: Sexual and Physical Abuse]
What we discussed
(00:22) Taking a trip to juvie at 10 years old
(03:42) The system is NOT broken
(04:42) [CW] Punished for speaking up about abuse
(07:30) Losing faith in adoption, police, and the system OR My first encounter with family policing system
(10:32) Going to school with bruises on my arm OR “You had a really good school year because DCF did not show up at my door” OR DCF shows up, I’m a disappointment OR DCF gets me in trouble
(16:41) My adopters’ public facade OR Where my skepticism started OR Losing respect for authority
(19:10) Suffering through therapy
(21:40) Who are they protecting? OR Abolition is the only option
(25:54) The system doesn’t care about children [CW: school shootings] OR They let alligators eat black babies (true story)
(31:45) My journey with queerness OR Queers in evangelical homes
Links
Learn more about abolition: Alan Dettlaff Episode | Torn Apart by Dorothy Roberts
Confronting the Racist Legacy of the American Child Welfare System By Alan Dettlaff
13th Documentary | The New Jim Crow by Michelle Alexander
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Credits
Special thanks to Samuel Oyedele for editing our podcast, support his work on Instagram or e-mail him at [email protected]
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Josh Lamers
Adoption is trauma. How do we help surviving children heal the wounds they’ve sustained from the child welfare system? Josh Lamers, a transracial adoptee, is public enemy #1 for child welfare agencies in Canada. He joins the show to discuss what adoption and child welfare are like in Canada; and how his organization, Collective of Child Welfare Survivors, advocates for child welfare survivors though addressing harm reduction, counseling, unpacking racial displacement, and community development…amongst many other things.
“The child who's now back in your home is not the same child who was taken out of your home.”
What we discussed
(00:21) Who is Josh Lamers?
(01:57) His transracial adoption experience OR “My adoption was illegal”
(08:51) How child welfare works in Canada OR Adoption system in Canada
(13:47) Insights from studying adoption OR What’s wrong with research about adoption
(23:51) Psychiatric system and adoption
(26:26) Disability and adoption (and why Josh’s adoption was illegal)
(32:22) Myth of “unmanageable kids”
(34:05) How they advocate for child welfare survivors
(45:50) How to support child advocacy work
Links
Outsiders Within
Collective of Child Welfare Survivors: Donate
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Credits
Special thanks to Samuel Oyedele for editing our podcast, support his work on Instagram or e-mail him at [email protected]
The podcast currently has 38 episodes available.
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