Verna Wyatt and Valerie Craig share a two decade history working as survivor advocates.

Verna came into this work from a place of pain and loss after her sister-in-law was murdered. She says she wanted perpetrators of crime to stay incarcerated and feel the pain that they'd caused. Years later, she and Valerie find themselves advocating for those very same prisoners.

In this episode, we hear the backstories that brought these two together, how they majorly pivoted along the way, and what their plans are for the future.

This episode was produced by Tasha A.F. Lemley. Special thanks to Stacy Rector.

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