Everyone’s talking about affirmative action at elite universities. But they educate fewer than 5 percent of students seeking advanced degrees. So why should the other 95 percent care?

Kai wants to know about the future of equity in higher education. So he talks to:

-Dominique Baker, Southern Methodist University Associate Professor of Education Policy.

-Imani Perry, Harvard University Professor of African and African American Studies, and Studies of Women, Gender, and Sexuality.

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Notes from America airs live on Sundays at 6 p.m. ET. The podcast episodes are lightly edited from our live broadcasts.