Justin and Andrew dive into the growing debate over whether we’ve already crossed the AGI threshold — or if we’ll even know when we do. From Tyler Cowen’s “AGI moment” with OpenAI’s o3 model to the jagged frontier of modern evals, they explore why defining intelligence is more subjective than ever.

Chapters

00:00 - Intro

02:20 - The AGI Moment

10:22 - Is o3 or Gemini 2.5 AGI?

14:50 - The Pseudosingularity

20:16 - Humanity's Last Exam

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