In this week’s Thought Sparks Podcast episode, Rita McGrath, a Columbia University Business School Professor, C-Suite strategist, business founder and best-selling author, sits down with Johan Roos, Global Chief Academic Officer at Hult International Business School, co-creator of LEGO Serious Play, and author of Human Magic: Leading with Wisdom in an Age of Algorithms. 

00:30: Introductions — A Long Friendship and a New  Book 

6:00: The Genesis of Human Magic — The Central Question 

10:34: The History Behind the Idea, From 2012 to ChatGPT 

17:58: The Five Cs: The Core of Human Magic 

22:42: Algorithmic Citizenship vs. Professional Citizenship 

28:24: The Junior Talent Problem and Unintended  Consequences 

35:50: AI in Business Schools and Lessons from Hult Business School 

40:04: The Future of Business Schools and the MBA 

44:08: Rethinking the Role of the Professor 

50:35: What Human Magic Hopes to Accomplish 

53:45: Science Fiction, Warning Signs, and "Your Choice" 

55:06:What's Next for Johan Roos 

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