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December 11, 2025Phantom Datacenters
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Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis explore Google's XR prototypes and Meta's mixed reality delay, Nvidia's H200 chips cleared for China, the Agentic AI Foundation alliance, Meta's Limitless pendant acquisition, and Pebble's smart ring debut.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Podcast start

7:55 - I tried Google’s prototype smart glasses and it almost made me forget about my phone

8:13 - Here's how Google is laying the foundation for our mixed reality future

32:28 - Commerce to open up exports of Nvidia H200 chips to China

35:46 - Exclusive: Nvidia builds location verification tech that could help fight chip smuggling

41:06 - OpenAI, Anthropic, and Block Are Teaming Up to Make AI Agents Play Nice

48:05 - Meta Acquires Limiteless, an A.I. Pendant Company Backed by Sam Altman

49:48 - Pebble maker announces Index 01, a smart-ish ring for under $100

55:48 - TESCREALers paying journalists at major outlets to cover AI

1:01:01 - Jeff's ARXIV Showdown

1:07:09 - From Inbox to Wipeout: Perplexity Comet’s AI Browser Quietly Erasing Google Drive

1:07:44 - Block all AI browsers for the foreseeable future: Gartner

1:11:09 - You can buy your Instacart groceries without leaving ChatGPT

1:14:51 - Google's year in search adds AI catch-me-up

1:15:08 - Google’s Year in Search 2025: These trending topics spiked big

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1 hr 25 min
December 08, 2025 Google XR Director Juston Payne: Project Aura, Android XR, Lessons from Google Glass
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Juston Payne is Google's Senior Director of Product Management for XR and the product mind behind Android XR and the newly announced Project Aura. He joins the AI Inside podcast to explain how Google plans to succeed where Google Glass fell short over a decade ago. We dig into why the smart glasses market today resembles the iPhone before the App Store existed, how Google's platform approach lowers the lift for developers, and why multimodal AI makes this the right moment for XR to take off. Juston also shares a personal story about his son navigating Rome with nothing but prototype glasses. Tune in for an essential conversation about where computing is headed next.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00:00 - Podcast begins
00:00:44 - Introducing Juston Payne, Google's Senior Director of Product Management for XR
00:02:13 - Why Google Sees XR as the Next Major Computing Platform
00:05:14 - Google's Ecosystem Advantage and the Developer Problem
00:09:22 - Gemini and XR: A Perfect Multimodal Pairing
00:13:17 - Google Maps and the AI Pipeline Powering Immersive Experiences
00:16:44 - The 10-Year-Old Navigating Rome with Prototype Glasses
00:18:54 - Juston Reveals His Original Google Glass Explorer Edition
00:21:59 - The Three Things Missing from Glass: Hardware, Platform, and AI
00:26:02 - Privacy, Cameras, and Cultural Acceptance
00:27:43 - The Xreal Partnership and Project Aura
00:33:04 - Thank you to Juston Payne for joining the AI Inside podcast

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37 min
December 03, 2025What a Difference Three Years Makes
Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis unpack Apple's new AI chief Amar Subramanya, ChatGPT's third birthday reflections, and how Silicon Valley is spoofing websites to train its AI agents without getting blocked by the real thing.

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CHAPTERS:
0:00:00 - Podcast start

0:02:50 - https://simonwillison.net/2025/Nov/30/chatgpt-third-birthday/

0:05:30 - https://techcrunch.com/2025/11/30/chatgpt-launched-three-years-ago-today/

0:16:25 - https://techcrunch.com/2025/12/01/apple-just-named-a-new-ai-chief-with-google-and-microsoft-expertise-as-john-giannandrea-steps-down/

0:22:42 - https://techcrunch.com/2025/12/02/amazon-releases-an-impressive-new-ai-chip-and-teases-a-nvidia-friendly-roadmap/

0:29:35 - https://www.rohan-paul.com/p/semianalysis-on-google-tpu-vs-nvidia

- https://newsletter.semianalysis.com/p/tpuv7-google-takes-a-swing-at-the

0:33:25 - https://archive.ph/YsUrX#selection-285.0-285.85

0:39:00 - https://deadline.com/2025/11/james-cameron-gen-ai-horrifying-human-art-sacred-avatar-1236631387/?link_source=ta_first_comment&taid=692d672d138b980001cfe084&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawOaZNRleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFCV25hNGNVSm95Tzk0S3pVc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHsePuPpiv_rP7ZGwwz3XHIDvCxbAILSEt1DcFsZBIT8kw3T9uUkOQR3VqHU5_aem_Er2ggpoE7126yXy0m4i_lg

0:43:53 - https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/02/technology/silicon-valley-builds-amazon-and-gmail-copycats-to-train-ai-agents.html

0:52:53 - https://venturebeat.com/ai/deepseek-just-dropped-two-insanely-powerful-ai-models-that-rival-gpt-5-and

0:55:37 - Runway unveils Gen-4.5 video generation model that tops Video Arena

1:00:49 - https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/01/technology/college-computer-science-ai-boom.html

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1 hr 11 min
November 26, 2025Behind the Scenes of Nano Banana Pro
Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis explore Google’s Nano Banana Pro launch and Jason's unique sit-down with the leaders of Gemini 3, Nvidia’s earnings amid AI bubble talks, Google’s TPU deal with Meta, and Warner Music’s Suno settlement. They also cover Trump’s Genesis Mission, Gmail AI concerns, Anthropic Opus 4.5, and Character AI’s age ban.
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Chapters:
6:43 - Google launches Nano Banana Pro, an updated AI image generator powered by Gemini 3

8:21 - Nate B Jones example of how he used Nano Bana Pro

15:33 - Behind the scenes with Google's Gemini team - 3 insights that surprised me the most

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23:39 - Nvidia’s Strong Results Show AI Fears Are Premature

24:30 - Google Further Encroaches on Nvidia’s Turf With New AI Chip Push

26:03 - Nvidia's happy for Google

32:18 - What to know about Trump’s order for the AI project ‘Genesis Mission’

38:07 - Google denies analyzing your emails for AI training - here's what happened

41:22 - Warner Music Group strikes ‘landmark’ deal with Suno; settles copyright lawsuit against AI music generator

44:31 - Suno creators making 7m songs a day; trained on only $2k

51:54 - Anthropic introduces cheaper, more powerful, more efficient Opus 4.5 model

55:36 - Teens Are Saying Tearful Goodbyes to Their AI Companions

58:02 - Jony Ive and Sam Altman say they finally have an AI hardware prototype

58:53 - Sam Altman and Jony Ive have a 'lick' test for OpenAI's mysterious AI device, which they expect within the next 2 years

1:00:43 - OpenAI Partner Foxconn Plans Multibillion-Dollar US AI Push

1:01:34 - Meta chief AI scientist Yann LeCun is leaving to create his own startup

1:03:09 - Jony Ive and Sam Altman say they finally have an AI hardware prototype

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1 hr 18 min
November 19, 2025 Gemini 3 is Here
Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis explore Google’s Gemini 3 multimodal AI with visual and interactive features, Microsoft’s AI Copilot launch across Windows, and Jeff Bezos’s new well-funded AI startup Project Prometheus focused on engineering and manufacturing.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Podcast begins
01:55 - Do LLM's understand? AI Pioneer Yann Le Cun spars with DeepMind's Adam Brown
20:45 - A new era of intelligence with Gemini 3
34:25 - Microsoft is packing more AI into Windows, ready or not - here's what's new
37:59 - Inside Microsoft Agent 365: How AI Workers Will Be Secured, Identified, and Governed
42:24 - At a major AI conference, one startup got voted most likely to flop
44:48 - Hugging Face CEO says we’re in an ‘LLM bubble,’ not an AI bubble
46:07 - Google boss warns 'no company is going to be immune' if AI bubble bursts
49:02 - Google unveils agentic tools to help advertisers
- So does Amazon
49:23 - And Meta introduces a foundation model for advertisers
53:17 - DeepMind releases WeatherNext2
56:05 - OpenAI introduces group chats with ChatGPT
58:28 - Microsoft’s new Anthropic partnership brings Claude AI models to Azure
59:26 - Amazon and Microsoft Back Effort That Would Restrict Nvidia’s Exports to China
1:00:42 - Jeff Bezos Creates A.I. Start-Up Where He Will Be Co-Chief Executive

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1 hr 8 min
November 18, 2025 Inside Microsoft Agent 365: How AI Workers Will Be Secured, Identified, and Governed
Microsoft is introducing Agent 365, a new control plane for managing AI agents across the enterprise. Charles Lamanna, the executive leading Microsoft’s Business Apps and Agents division, joins us to explain the ideas behind the launch and why the company believes AI workers will soon be as common as apps or devices. We explore how agents already operate inside organizations, how identity and permissions will work for autonomous systems, and how Microsoft plans to detect and govern rogue agents. If you want to understand the strategy and engineering thinking behind one of Microsoft’s biggest AI bets, this is the episode to hear.

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CHAPTERS:
00:00 – Podcast begins
01:51 – Introducing Charles Lamanna
02:45 – Why Microsoft Is Launching Agent 365 at Ignite
04:37 – How AI Agents Are Already Appearing Inside Companies
06:24 – Customer Fears About Agent Autonomy and Trust
08:40 – How Builders Know When They’ve Created a True “Agent”
11:33 – How Microsoft Detects Agents That Aren’t Registered
13:43 – How Agent 365 Will Audit and Govern AI Agents
17:05 – Real-World Examples of Agents Delivering Results
19:08 – Automatic Agent Registration and Future Telemetry Signals
20:07 – Using Agent 365 in Non-Microsoft Environments
20:38 – Whether Agent 365 Becomes the Directory for All Agents
22:25 – How Agent 365 Handles Bad or Misbehaving Agents
24:10 – What a “Bad Agent” Actually Means in Practice
25:55 – What Success Looks Like After Six to Twelve Months
30:16 – First Steps for Organizations Beginning Their Agent Journey
31:00 – Closing and thanks to Charles Lamanna

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36 min
November 12, 2025 What About... An OpenAI Bubble?
Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis discuss Yann LeCun’s possible Meta exit, SoftBank unloading its Nvidia stake for an OpenAI investment, an AI-generated artist topping Billboard’s country chart, OpenAI’s talks with Washington over federal loan guarantees, Perplexity’s stance on companion chat bots, Apple reportedly licensing Google’s Gemini, Amazon launching Kindle Translate, and Google Photos expanding with Nano Banana features.

CHAPTERS:
0:03:33: Meta chief AI scientist Yann LeCun plans to exit to launch startup, FT reports
0:09:03: Cambrian-S: Towards Spatial Supersensing in Video: by Li, LeCun, et al
0:10:11: Fei-Fei Li’s World Labs speeds up the world model race with Marble, its first commercial product
0:16:45: SoftBank Sells Its Nvidia Stake for $5.8 Billion to Fund OpenAI Bet
0:20:10: Anthropic Is on Track to Turn a Profit Much Faster Than OpenAI
0:27:40: OpenAI discussed government loan guarantees for chip plants, not data centers, Altman says
0:29:19: @sama: I would like to clarify a few things.
0:38:51: Country’s No. 1 Digital Song Is an AI Smash, But Who Is Breaking Rust?
Jeff's Arxiv Showdown
0:47:13: How Similar Are Grokipedia and Wikipedia?
0:49:24: Brain Organoid Computing
0:49:45: What We Can Learn From Brain Organoids
0:51:18: LLM-Based Multi-Agent System for Simulating and Analyzing Marketing and Consumer Behavior
0:52:00: Shareholder Democracy with AI Representatives
0:53:00: No. 10's synthetic voters
0:55:03: Perplexity's CEO says he's worried about AI companionship apps: 'Your mind is manipulable very easily'
0:56:20: tangentially related; might not mention: Tim Wu and Cory Doctorow’s NPCs: Non-Player Consumers
0:57:44: Apple Plans to Use 1.2 Trillion Parameter Google Gemini Model to Power New Siri - Bloomberg
0:59:05: Amazon launches an AI-powered Kindle Translate service for e-book authors
1:02:41: 6 new things you can do with AI in Google Photos
1:04:00: Remix makes sending photos to friends even more fun on Google Messages.
1:05:08: MotionStream AI

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1 hr 14 min
November 05, 2025 Amazon vs Perplexity: Who Controls the Agent?
Join Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis as they unpack the Amazon-Perplexity legal fight, OpenAI’s massive cloud computing agreement, Coca-Cola’s AI-powered ads return for the holidays, and Jason reflects on two key reasons why he keeps returning to the Sora platform.
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CHAPTERS:
3:50 - Amazon Demands Perplexity Stop AI Tool From Making Purchases
13:07 - OpenAI signs $38bn cloud computing deal with Amazon
15:00 - Is OpenAI Becoming Too Big to Fail?
23:02 - Universal Music Settles With AI Firm Udio
35:41 - Getty Images largely loses landmark UK lawsuit over AI image generator
38:24 - OpenAI launches its Sora app on Android
45:04 - OpenAI Wants Brands to Allow Their Mascots to Appear in Gen AI Videos
55:29 - Google’s First AI Ad Avoids the Uncanny Valley by Casting a Turkey
56:24 - Coca-Cola Is Trying Another AI Holiday Ad. Executives Say This Time Is Different
01:02:30 - We have a YouTube channel! Head to youtube.com/@aiinsideshow to catch all of our episodes in video!
01:05:14 - Google pulls Gemma from AI Studio after Senator Blackburn accuses model of defamation
01:07:50 - Anthropic Projects $70 Billion in Revenue, $17 Billion in Cash Flow in 2028 (3 free reads with this link)
01:08:33 - OpenAI’s Less-Flashy Rival Might Have a Better Business Model
01:09:17 - arXiv Changes Rules After Getting Spammed With AI-Generated 'Research' Papers
01:13:17 - Google wants to build solar-powered data centers — in space

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1 hr 20 min
October 29, 2025 OpenAI's Path to IPO
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On this episode, Jeff and I break down OpenAI’s restructuring for profit, look at Qualcomm's new AI200 chips, discuss why Amazon’s office job reductions might not be entirely about AI, and share Adobe’s latest generative Firefly 5 updates from Adobe Max 2025.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 Podcast begins
07:24 - OpenAI completes its for-profit recapitalization
16:03 - Amazon to Cut 14,000 Jobs as Jassy Looks to Ease Bureaucracy
18:01 - Nate B Jones on why they really laid off staff
23:38 - Nate B Jones on why they really laid off staff
25:33 - Adobe Now Lets You Generate Soundtracks and Speech in Firefly
33:17 - Researchers exploit OpenAI's Atlas by disguising prompts as URLs
40:15 - Amazon unveils AI smart glasses for its delivery drivers
42:03 - Introducing Blue Jay and Project Eluna, Amazon’s latest robotics and AI technology for its operations
45:36 - Elon Musk launches a Wikipedia rival that extols his own ‘vision’
49:25 - Leo's entry says he's semi-retired; news to him, I'll bet
51:58 - Qualcomm Launches AI Chips to Challenge Nvidia’s Dominance
52:40 - Nvidia becomes world’s first $5tn company
57:28 - Sora update to bring AI videos of your pets, new social features, and soon, an Android version
01:00:48 - Google and Anthropic announce cloud deal worth tens of billions of dollars
01:02:20: Find out what’s new in the Gemini app in October's Gemini Drop.

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1 hr 14 min
October 22, 2025 Samsung Galaxy XR Gets Real
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Tom Merritt joins Jason Howell to talk about OpenAI's ChatGPT Atlas browser (with demo), Samsung's Galaxy XR headset, Anthropic's Claude Code launch, and Microsoft's push for voice-controlled AI PCs.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Podcast begins
04:16 - I tried the Samsung Galaxy XR headset, and I wasn't worried for smart glasses at all
12:35 - Jason's video: Galaxy XR’s hidden message about the future of smartglasses
21:52- OpenAI is launching a web browser called Atlas
34:56 - OpenAI pauses Sora video generations of Martin Luther King Jr.
37:48 - OpenAI cracks down on Sora 2 deepfakes after pressure from Bryan Cranston, SAG-AFTRA
40:08 - YouTube’s likeness-detection technology has officially launched
43:45 - Microsoft wants you to talk to your PC and let AI control it
48:45 - Anthropic’s Claude Code Comes to Web and Mobile
50:29 - Pinterest adds controls to let you limit the amount of ‘AI slop’ in your feed
52:22 - GM plans to launch eyes-off driving, Google AI and other new in-vehicle tech by 2028

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1 hr 4 min

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