What if the problem is not Trump. Or Boris Johnson. Or the rest of the current occupants of the global leadership clown car?

What if the problem runs deeper? What if something about our societies is fundamentally broken? What if that is democracy? What if each election to come takes us further from old ideals and toward deeper dysfunction? Ok, so maybe it's not what you want to hear about when you're driving home or 

working out or doing whatever you do when you're listening to Deep State Radio. But it's what you NEED to hear. A sobering and thought-provoking conversation with Georgetown University's Rosa Brooks and the Financial Times' Ed Luce. Tune in. 

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