In the wake of anti-police violence protests across the country, calls are growing to “defund the police.” But what does that exactly mean?

Alex Vitale, a professor at Brooklyn College and the author of “The End of Policing,” joined Errol to talk about the resurgence of the movement to dismantle police departments, and Mayor de Blasio’s vow to shift funds from the NYPD to youth services as a response to the protests.

He also discusses his vision for the role of police in society and explain why he thinks reforms just don’t go far enough to fix policing.

Mentioned in this episode: “The End of Policing”

For more on policing, check out Errol's past conversation with former police commissioner Bill Bratton.

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