Altered States Of Conversation

Altered States Of Conversation

By Tim Adalin | VoicecraftSociety & CulturePhilosophy
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Altered States Of Conversation episodes

  • E149| Serpent Lore, Indigenous Thinking, and Right Relation w/ Tyson Yunkaporta

    On right relation, serpent lore, truth and reality, with Tyson Yunkaporta, who works with Indigenous Systems Knowledge, Indigenous inquiry methods and complexity science to address global existential threats and issues in regenerative design. He is the author of Sand Talk, Right Story Wrong Story co-author with Megan Kelleher of Snake Talk.Chapters00:00 On talking properly04:31 Approaching circle, setting circle, keeping circle, closing circle08:23 The trouble with reciprocity16:36 Law and lore: what's real and what's true31:57 Flibbertigibbets, hard heads and two throats41:27 The serpent as master of semi-permeable boundaries46:06 Is the human being transitionary?53:01 Hyperstition, Harry Potter and poison as medicine57:05 Right destruction, wrong destruction, wisdom of crowds1:01:29 The basilisk, empire, and evil as simplificationFind a copy of Snake Talk at https://www.amazon.com.au/Snake-Talk-ancient-serpent-stories/dp/1923058460---Access the shownotes & learn more about Voicecraft podcasts, events, courses and membership network @ https://www.voicecraft.io/content/e149-snake-talk-w/-tyson-yunkaportaListen to the full intro song by Cantrips titled 'The Big Break' @ https://youtu.be/Qaj-stBL4W0

    1 hr 17 min
  • E148| Where Does Power Lie Today? Time, Attention, AI w/ Alexander Bard

    The return of philosopher Alexander Bard in dialogue on power, time, attention and AI in the liminal period associable to Capitalism and ‘Attentionalism’.


    This continues threads from the conversation ‘Where are we in history?’ in which the notions of paradigmatics, membranics, and archetypology framed how we might approach an understanding of the social and technological changes taking place today. See E146.

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    Support this work at Substack: https://timadalin.substack.com/


    Access the shownotes & learn more about Voicecraft podcasts, events, courses and membership network @ https://www.voicecraft.io/content/e148-where-does-power-lie-today-time-attention-ai-alexander-bard


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    Chapters - mostly AI gen (these conversations aren't linear and rarely map well to chapter stamps)


    00:00 Intro (Recap of Where are we in history?)

    04:31 Beyond Economics: Sex, Power and Violence

    10:54 Chronomics: A New Paradigm of Time

    26:18 Dystopian vs. Protopian Perspectives

    36:48 The Shift from Capital to Attention

    43:34 The Triad of Power: Imaginary, Symbolic, and Real (Lacan)

    49:00 Imaginary Power and Its Contexts

    55:30 Sensocracy and the Future of Governance

    1:03:43 The Tyranny of the Past and AI's Limitations

    1:07:47 The Chaos of Future Politics

    1:12:01 Why Space Gives Potency to Time

    1:15:28 Influencers and Elites

    1:21:32 Populism, Mobs, and the Future of Collective Action

    1:29:57 Rethinking Communism and Religion

    1:40:55 Girard on the Mob, and Art Against Fundamentalism

    1:46:24 The Future of AI and Mathematics

    2:00:07 Emergentism and the Nature of Consciousness

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    Listen to the full intro song by Cantrips titled 'The Big Break' @ https://youtu.be/Qaj-stBL4W0

    2 hr 4 min
  • E147 | Feminine Violence w/ Adriana Forte, Pamela von Sabljar & Valeria Ferreira

    On the challenging and often shadowed topic of feminine violence; seeking pathways toward understanding and healing for men and women. A live dialogue at the Voicecraft Network with three outstanding women, Adriana Forte, Valeria Ferreira and Pamela von Sabljar.


    Learn more @ https://www.voicecraft.io/content/e147-feminine-violence-adriana-forte-pamela-von-sabljar-valeria-ferreira


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    About the speakers:


    Adriana Forte is a cultural architect, philosopher, and writer dedicated to bringing the cyclical nature of women’s minds into collective awareness. Through dialogue, writing, workshops, retreats, online group work, and one-on-one mentoring, she aims to create spaces for provocative thinking, reflection and transformation.


    Connect with Adriana's work on Substack where she is releasing her new book @ https://theclab.substack.com/


    Pamela von Sabljar is a new breed of speaker, facilitator, and mentor working at the evolutionary edge. She practices dialoguing, sensing, creating, and leading from this ever-emergent edge. She calls this Living from Eros. Pamela has 25 years experience in leadership, personal development, and behavioral science. She has founded several systemic change projects and leadership programs in advanced self-awareness and self-leadership.


    Find out how to contact and work with her @ https://www.pamelavonsabljar.com/


    Valeria Ferreira is a dialogic practitioner with a deep grasp of philosophies across the East and West, currently studying Mandarin to engage Chinese philosophy. She is a member of the Voicecraft Network.


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    0:00 Intro

    01:23 The Significance & Shadow of Discussing Feminine Violence

    05:03 Distinctions: Feminine as Psychological Principle

    11:10 Etymology and Intentionality of Violence

    18:26 What do we hold power over that we don't admit to?

    27:25 What aggression do we need to integrate in ourselves?

    34:22 Sexual Power, Visibility, and Modernity

    46:29 What violence has been done to the feminine?

    56:54 What are we willing to not see, to stay in relationship?

    01:04:38 The Role of Motherhood and Generational Healing

    01:18:34 The Collective Work of Healing Feminine Shadows

    1:23:34 What does this land as, in a man's body?



    1 hr 34 min
  • E146 | Aliens, Consciousness, and Reality (for Experiencers and Skeptics) | Michael Garfield in dialogue with Tim Adalin

    Evolutionary biologist, complexity thinker and UAP experiencer Michael Garfield joins Tim Adalin for a dialogue on UFOs, entity encounters, and the strange territory where consciousness studies, evolutionary biology, complex systems, the ontologically shocking, information theory and the imaginal meet.

    Can we engage the strange without becoming impotent, in a way that actually matters for how we live, belong, and make sense together?


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    Stay in touch by subscribing on Substack here: https://timadalin.substack.com/


    Access the shownotes & learn more about Voicecraft podcasts, events, courses and membership network @ https://www.voicecraft.io/content/e146-uap-and-disclosure-for-experiencers-and-skeptics-michael-garfield-in-dialogue-with-tim-adalin


    Connect with Michael at on Substack @ https://michaelgarfield.substack.com/


    And locate the rest of his work here @ https://linktr.ee/michaelgarfield


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    Chapters


    0:00 Intro

    2:26 Meeting the strange where you are: evolutionary biology & the UFO

    4:52 Telos, self-organisation & ontological shock

    8:23 Integral philosophy & the Buddhist tetralemma

    22:11 Has it become sayable? Psychedelics, channeling & attentional capitalism

    26:47 Three frames: psyop, projection & the external other

    38:23 The economy in ontological shock & noise in machine learning

    40:52 Noise, precognition & retrocausal information

    43:15 Metabolic ontology & the ecodelic

    45:42 A psychedelic the whole civilisation is taking at once

    49:54 Decoding animal communication & the interiority of plants

    52:00 The self as the strangest alien

    53:16 Kant, the noumenon & the limits of perception

    55:42 Is there a "there" to break through to?

    1:00:27 Dreaming, the imaginal & communication across time

    1:04:40 A hermeneutics of imagination (William Irwin Thompson)

    1:08:41 Danny Sheehan & a new faculty of perception

    1:12:25 Flatland & higher-dimensional reality

    1:24:42 Jacques Vallée's last word on disclosure

    1:38:01 The stakes: The Big Others

    1:44:03 "You can't do anything with it": impotence & relevance

    1:57:30 Becoming planetary & emotion-projection weapons

    1:59:59 Paranoid vs metanoid

    2:07:16 Games, value capture & why consensus reality isn't enough

    2:11:18 Closing Stories: Contact experiences


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    Additional resources mentioned by Michael in this episode:


    Hear more of Michael's experiences on the ⁨@dannyjones⁩ podcast @ https://youtu.be/H0kzIsmZpqs


    https://www.realitystudies.co/p/michael-garfield-ai-deepfakes-rewilding-reality


    https://michaelgarfield.substack.com/t/the-phenomenon


    Miguel Fuentes on epistemic randomness

    https://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/16/8/4489


    Some related writing from Michael: https://michaelgarfield.substack.com/p/noisy


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    Listen to the full intro song by Cantrips titled 'The Big Break' @ https://youtu.be/Qaj-stBL4W0

    2 hr 25 min
  • E145| Paradigms, Membranes, Archetypes: Digital Age Philosophy w/ Alexander Bard

    Where are we in history? What is the central question for social philosophy? What paradigm might be replacing capitalism? What will become of humanity in the age of information and attention? How can re-thinking a philosophy of membranes, paradigms, and archetypes help us situate living in the world today?


    Welcoming the return of philosopher Alexander Bard in conversation with Tim Adalin about membranics, paradigmatics, and archetypology in the chaos between capitalism and attentionalism.


    Support this work at Substack: https://timadalin.substack.com/


    Chapters


    0:00 Introduction

    0:11 Where are we in history?

    2:07 What is 'paradigmatics'?

    7:33 What is 'archetypology'? Plus definition of 'membranics'

    15:20 How much is our sense of inside and outside (membranes) in flux today?

    21:23 The 'sociont', tribal loyalty, and the central question for philosophy: mediating world-annihilating violence

    25:33 What ideologies and material pressures shape our belonging today?

    41:00 Shamanoids as go-betweens & the birth of religion

    54:44 The dying paradigm: politics, finance & academia

    1:03:27 What is attentionalism — and how does it differ from the "attention economy"?

    1:14:50 Attention as sacred vs. attention as commodity

    1:24:55 'Hacking synchronicity', corrupting attention, and power in attentionalism


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    Access the shownotes & learn more about Voicecraft podcasts, events, courses and membership network @ https://www.voicecraft.io/content/e145-membranes-paradigms-archetypes-w/-alexander-bard-and-tim-adalin


    Listen to the full intro song by Cantrips titled 'The Big Break' @ https://youtu.be/Qaj-stBL4W0

    1 hr 32 min
  • E144| Future Human w/ Carl Hayden Smith, Simon van der Els, Sarah Janes, Pamela von Sabljar, Jon Garner, Tim Adalin @ The Big Dinner

    A multimodal experiment in altered states of conversation, sensing for qualities of the Future Human. This took place at The Big Dinner: like pirate radio, but with dinners hosted at homes around the world, held by the Voicecraft Network.


    Welcoming psychonaut and hyperhuman theorist Carl Hayden Smith, dreaming mysteries teacher Sarah Janes, biologist and neo-Shamanic practitioner Simon van der Els, artist Jon Garner, field facilitator Pamela von Sabljar, joined by philosopher Tim Adalin.


    To learn about the next opportunity to participate in The Big Dinner, stay in touch with the project by following the breadcrumbs, and subscribing on Substack here: https://timadalin.substack.com/


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    00:00 Intro to The Big Dinner and Guest Intros

    5:30 The somatic praxis begins — dropping into the body together

    17:00 The oracular world: dreams and signs as glimpses of the future

    20:30 "The future is analog" — embodiment as our edge over AI

    30:40 The soul, the placenta, and the modern terror of dying

    44:45 Child time, elders, and the case for communal rhythm

    47:40 "Presence is longevity" — Carl on humans as nested ecologies

    1:01:45 Advertising as mind control — and a gentler vision of technology

    1:10:50 Reclaiming our capacity for grief

    1:21:00 Decoding the languages of whales, plants, and fungi

    1:33:00 The reality of violence — and the "wizardry" of containing it


    Access the shownotes & learn more about Voicecraft podcasts, events, courses and membership network @ https://www.voicecraft.io/content/the-big-dinner-future-human-w/-carl-hayden-smith-simon-van-der-els-sarah-janes-pamela-von-sabljar-jon-garner-tim-adalin


    Listen to the full intro song by Cantrips titled 'The Big Break' @ https://youtu.be/Qaj-stBL4W0

    1 hr 49 min
  • E144 | Future Human w/ Carl Hayden Smith, Simon van der Els, Sarah Janes, Pamela von Sabljar, Jon Garner, Tim Adalin @ The Big Dinner

    A multimodal experiment in altered states of conversation, sensing for qualities of the Future Human. This took place at The Big Dinner: like pirate radio, but with dinners hosted at homes around the world, held by the Voicecraft Network.


    Welcoming psychonaut and hyperhuman theorist Carl Hayden Smith, dreaming mysteries teacher Sarah Janes, biologist and neo-Shamanic practitioner Simon van der Els, artist Jon Garner, field facilitator Pamela von Sabljar, joined by philosopher Tim Adalin.


    To learn about the next opportunity to participate in The Big Dinner, stay in touch with the project by following the breadcrumbs, and subscribing on Substack here: https://timadalin.substack.com/


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    00:00 Intro to The Big Dinner and Guest Intros

    5:30 The somatic praxis begins — dropping into the body together

    17:00 The oracular world: dreams and signs as glimpses of the future

    20:30 "The future is analog" — embodiment as our edge over AI

    30:40 The soul, the placenta, and the modern terror of dying

    44:45 Child time, elders, and the case for communal rhythm

    47:40 "Presence is longevity" — Carl on humans as nested ecologies

    1:01:45 Advertising as mind control — and a gentler vision of technology

    1:10:50 Reclaiming our capacity for grief

    1:21:00 Decoding the languages of whales, plants, and fungi

    1:33:00 The reality of violence — and the "wizardry" of containing it


    Access the shownotes & learn more about Voicecraft podcasts, events, courses and membership network @ https://www.voicecraft.io/content/the-big-dinner-future-human-w/-carl-hayden-smith-simon-van-der-els-sarah-janes-pamela-von-sabljar-jon-garner-tim-adalin


    Listen to the full intro song by Cantrips titled 'The Big Break' @ https://youtu.be/Qaj-stBL4W0

    1 hr 49 min
  • E143| What Are We Accelerating Towards? | Benjamin Studebaker, Michel Bauwens, O.G. Rose, Tim Adalin

    On geopolitical shifts, civilisational cycles, and the potential for new social coordination mechanisms in an increasingly frenetic world.

    This dialogue welcomes the return of political theorist Benjamin Studebaker, philosopher O.G. Rose, and Commons / Civilisation theorist Michel Bauwens in dialogue with Tim Adalin.

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    Access the shownotes for more on the guests & more about Voicecraft podcasts, events, courses and membership network @ https://www.voicecraft.io/content/e143-what-are-we-accelerating-towards-w/-benjamin-studebaker-michel-bauwens-og-rose-and-tim-adalin


    MIchel Bauwen's Substack: https://4thgenerationcivilization.substack.com

    Benjamin Studebaker's Substack: https://bmstudebaker.substack.com

    @O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel Substack: https://ogrose.substack.com

    Tim Adalin's Substack: https://timadalin.substack.com/


    Chapters


    00:00 Intro

    00:10 US, China, Geopolitical Shifts and Military Spending

    06:01 The 5,000-Year Transition: Modes of Exchange

    25:22 Social Coordination Mechanisms and Global Pluralism

    40:21 Exploring Accelerationism: Positive vs. Negative Forms

    47:45 The Dilemma of Nation States vs. Globalization

    56:14 The Crisis of European Identity and Sovereignty

    01:07:04 Communication and Social Coordination in a Complex World

    01:18:45 Incompleteness of Institutions and the Potential for New Ideas

    01:20:12 The Opportunity in Institutional Failure

    01:20:51 Fragmentation and the Search for Unity

    01:22:08 The Challenge of Encountering Otherness

    01:24:37 Metaphysical Possibilities in Human Encounters

    01:30:27 Navigating Geopolitical Dynamics

    01:38:20 The Role of Invisible Colleges in Crisis

    01:46:02 Reflections on Trust and Society

    01:52:43 Alienation and the Quest for Sameness



    Listen to the full outro song by Cantrips titled 'The Big Break' @ https://youtu.be/Qaj-stBL4W0

    1 hr 53 min
  • E143| What Are We Accelerating Towards? | Benjamin Studebaker, Michel Bauwens, O.G. Rose, Tim Adalin

    On geopolitical shifts, civilisational cycles, and the potential for new social coordination mechanisms in an increasingly frenetic world.

    This dialogue welcomes the return of political theorist Benjamin Studebaker, philosopher O.G. Rose, and Commons / Civilisation theorist Michel Bauwens in dialogue with Tim Adalin.

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    Access the shownotes & learn more about Voicecraft podcasts, events, courses and membership network @ https://www.voicecraft.io/content/e143-what-are-we-accelerating-towards-w/-benjamin-studebaker-michel-bauwens-og-rose-and-tim-adalin


    MIchel Bauwen's Substack: https://4thgenerationcivilization.substack.com/

    Benjamin Studebaker's Substack: https://bmstudebaker.substack.com/​

    O.G. Rose's Substack: https://ogrose.substack.com/

    Tim Adalin's Substack: https://substack.com/@timadalin


    Chapters

    00:00 Intro

    00:10 US, China, Geopolitical Shifts and Military Spending

    06:01 The 5,000-Year Transition: Modes of Exchange

    25:22 Social Coordination Mechanisms and Global Pluralism

    40:21 Exploring Accelerationism: Positive vs. Negative Forms

    47:45 The Dilemma of Nation States vs. Globalization

    56:14 The Crisis of European Identity and Sovereignty

    01:07:04 Communication and Social Coordination in a Complex World

    01:18:45 Incompleteness of Institutions and the Potential for New Ideas

    01:20:12 The Opportunity in Institutional Failure

    01:20:51 Fragmentation and the Search for Unity

    01:22:08 The Challenge of Encountering Otherness

    01:24:37 Metaphysical Possibilities in Human Encounters

    01:30:27 Navigating Geopolitical Dynamics

    01:38:20 The Role of Invisible Colleges in Crisis

    01:46:02 Reflections on Trust and Society

    01:52:43 Alienation and the Quest for Sameness


    Listen to the full outro song by Cantrips titled 'The Big Break' @ https://youtu.be/Qaj-stBL4W0

    1 hr 53 min
  • E142| Are We Running Out Of Time as a Species? | Dave Snowden

    What is Anthro-complexity? What makes humans different? How can we respond with wisdom, at scale, to our entanglements? Welcoming polymathic thinker and renowned complexity practitioner Dave Snowden, in dialogue with Tim Adalin.

    Dave's previous conversations on Voicecraft / Altered States Of Conversation:

    "Civilisation, Science & Spirituality" https://youtu.be/uXvWQzGcNCo

    "Artificial Intelligence & Human Reasoning" | Metacrisis vs Polycrisis" https://youtu.be/TrMZL55Nzl0

    Access the shownotes & learn more about Voicecraft podcasts, events, courses and membership network @ https://www.voicecraft.io/content/e142-anthro-complexity-entanglement-wayshaping-and-addressing-existential-threat-w/-dave-snowden

    Learn more about Dave and Cynefin @ https://thecynefin.co/team/dave-snowden

    Find Dave's blog series on Anthro-complexity: https://thecynefin.co/anthro-complexity-1-3/


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    Timestamps


    0:00 Intro

    0:10 What is anthro-complexity?

    8:33 Entanglement, not relationship?

    15:45 Orientation and the ancient debate that still structures how we think

    23:05 Why workshops don't work (and what does)

    34:30 You can't simplify a falcon into a pigeon (and have it still be a falcon)

    45:25 Three dangers: appropriation, distraction, destruction

    53:04 Who is this actually for?

    57:30 Demes: the forgotten structure humans evolved to live in

    1:04:55 Do we need new shamans?

    1:42:50 Changing how decision-makers listen

    1:55:00 The limits of dialogue and what comes next


    Listen to the full outro song by Cantrips titled 'The Big Break' @ https://youtu.be/Qaj-stBL4W0

    2 hr 2 min

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