Bob Crawford of The Avett Brothers joins the Holler to discuss his new book "America's Founding Son" and how a touring musician ended up writing a sweeping history of John Quincy Adams. Bob recalls studying American history in the back of a tour van and falling down a rabbit hole that led him to one of the most fascinating and overlooked figures in American history.

We talk about why Adams's era feels eerily familiar today (tariffs, populism, conspiracy theories, cultural polarization) and why Bob believes Adams's life is a powerful reminder that public service doesn't end when you leave the highest office in the land.

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