It's the second half of our conversation with artist Chief Lady Bird about her decision to design a beer can label in support of Indigenous women's causes. In part one, we learned about how it all came to be and some of the reaction that's poured forth in its wake. This time, we go deeper into popular misunderstandings and misrepresentations of drugs and addiction, drawing on the insights of a neuroscientist who not only studies drugs but unapologetically enjoys them too.

Joining host/producer Rick Harp for even more social lubrication are Kim TallBear, associate professor in the Faculty of Native Studies at the University of Alberta and Canada Research Chair in Indigenous Peoples, Technoscience & Environment, Candis Callison, Associate Professor in the Institute for Critical Indigenous Studies and the Graduate School of Journalism at UBC, and our special guest, artist Okimaa Kwe Bihness, also known as Chief Lady Bird.

// CREDITS: "Tree Tenants," by Revolution Void (CC BY 3.0). Our theme is 'nesting' by birocratic.