Matt Slayer welcomes award-winning performer Derek Kage back for a rare third appearance on And Now We Drink, and the result is exactly the kind of unfiltered, hilarious, and unexpectedly thoughtful chaos listeners come for. Over dirty martinis, Matt and Derek bounce from Amazon’s ever-expanding empire and digital surge pricing to the strange convenience of modern isolation, grocery delivery, and why self-checkout can feel like a moral dilemma. Derek opens up about an intensely busy year in the industry, working across gay, straight, and trans scenes, winning major awards, and navigating the physical realities of performing while dealing with illness, prostatitis, antibiotics, and the realities of  testing. He also offers a candid PSA about  the importance of informed consent on set. The conversation gets wildly graphic and funny as Derek recounts scene disasters, “horse market” parties, and the surreal experience of being a gay performer in straight gangb**g scenes with performers he admires. Along the way, Matt and Derek trade stories about vasectomies, aging bodies, metal bands, 9/11 memories, dry counties, school rebellion, and much more. Equal parts filthy, funny, reflective, and politically charged, this episode is a deep dive into Derek Kage’s world—and a reminder that no topic is off-limits once the drinks start flowing.

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