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In this episode, we sit down with Larry to talk about what it really looks like to navigate a difficult job search after an unexpected layoff.
After losing his job with almost no warning, Larry had to figure out what to do next. Through persistence, community, and faith, he rebuilt momentum in his job search and eventually landed not one, but two job offers.
We discuss:
How strategic outreach helped land interviews quickly
The resume changes that made recruiters respond
How to prepare for interviews effectively
What to do when you face rejection after multiple interview rounds
How to manage burnout during a long job search
The importance of faith, prayer, and community during the job hunt
If you’re currently job searching, feeling discouraged, or wondering how to stay motivated after setbacks, this episode will encourage you and give you practical steps to keep moving forward.
Cheering you on,
Kelsey Kemp & Audrey Bagarus
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TIME STAMPS
02:40 What To Do Immediately After Losing Your Job
04:10 The Outreach Strategy That Landed Interviews
06:00 Resume Changes That Got Recruiters’ Attention
08:15 Learning How to Answer “Tell Me About Yourself”
10:05 The Shift That Improved His Interviews
13:30 How To Handle Rejection After Multiple Rounds
17:00 Avoiding Job Search Burnout
23:10 The Interview He Thought He Failed
29:40 How He Ended Up With Two Job Offers
43:10 Advice for Anyone Who Was Just Laid Off
Welcome to the 4th episode of our “Why You’re Getting Rejected” series!
If you haven’t watched the first three episodes yet, make sure to check out the full playlist so you can understand the entire hiring process from start to finish:
In this episode, we’re breaking down what happens after the hiring manager interview, because the interview process can vary wildly depending on company, industry, and seniority level. We discuss:
The most common interview types you may face next
What sequences tend to look like for small businesses, startups, and large corporations
How the interview process changes by role level
A step-by-step plan to prepare for each type of interview
How to approach role-specific assessments
How to prepare for the final executive interview
If you’ve ever made it past round two and still didn’t get the offer, this episode will help you understand why, and exactly how to prepare differently next time.
Cheering you on,
Kelsey Kemp & Audrey Bagarus
READ THE FULL COMPANION BLOG FOR THIS EPISODE HERE: https://thecalledcareer.com/how-to-ace-team-peer-technical-and-executive-interviews/
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TIME STAMPS
02:40 – Overview of The Common Interview Types
04:00 – Peer & Cross-Functional Interviews Explained
05:26 – Small Business Interview Process Breakdown
06:45 – Startup Interview Process Breakdown
08:00 – Large Corporation / Structured Interview Process Breakdown
08:30 – How the Process Changes by Seniority Level
10:30 – Entry-Level Interview Expectations
12:45 – Mid-Level Interview Expectations
15:30 – Senior-Level Interview Expectations
17:45 – Executive-Level / Director Interviews
18:38 – Ask the Recruiter What’s Next (Don’t Guess)
20:10 – Reaching Out to Recent Hires for Insight
22:28 – Peer/Team Interviews: What They’re Evaluating
25:58 – How to Prepare for Peer Interviews Step-by-Step
28:40 – Common Peer Interview Questions
35:25 – Role-Specific Assessments Overview
37:10 – Case Study Interviews: How to Structure Answers
39:30 – Technical Assessments: What They’re Looking For
41:20 – Presentation Interviews: How to Stand Out
45:05 – Final Executive Interview: What Actually Matters
47:10 – Executive Presence & Strategic Thinking
49:00 – Questions to Ask in the Final Round
51:18 – Offer Conversations & Reference Checks
Have you ever made it to the next round of interviews… and still not get the offer?
In this episode, we break down the #1 non-obvious reason hiring managers reject candidates after the second round. Spoiler: it’s not your experience, but how you communicate it.
We discuss how to:
Turn interviews into conversations instead of interrogations
Ask strategic questions that reveal what the hiring manager actually wants
Stop “playing blind” and tailor your answers in real time
Handle gaps in experience with confidence and honesty
Ask for next steps so you’re not left in limbo
If you’ve been getting to final rounds but not landing the offer, this episode will show you exactly what to fix.
Cheering you on,
Kelsey Kemp & Audrey Bagarus
BOOK A FREE CALL WITH US THIS WEEK:
https://portal.kelseykemp.com/public/appointment-scheduler/6222458612c06afee1de0032/schedule
FREE CAREER COACHING RESOURCES:
Free Training: How to Find and Land a Job You Feel Called to in 8 Straightforward Steps → https://thecalledcareer.com/our-process
More of a reader? Download the 22 page PDF version instead → https://thecalledcareer.mykajabi.com/PDF
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🎙 Spotify Podcast / https://open.spotify.com/show/5QpGj7lkYYHaZAkLM27R1F
🎙 Apple Podcast / https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/answer-the-call-christian-career-coaching/id1468014993
📱 Pinterest / https://www.pinterest.com/thecalledcareer/
TIME STAMPS
01:37 – The ONE mistake candidates make
03:01 – The 2 questions every hiring manager is asking
04:41 – Stop being transactional in interviews
06:18 – Why job descriptions aren’t enough
07:51 – How to start the interview the right way
11:25 – The most powerful question to ask: “What separates good from great?”
14:06 – Don’t play blind for the rest of the interview
20:03 – Real-life example from a hiring manager (Kevin’s story)
23:55 – What if you don’t have all the experience?
27:58 – Always ask about next steps
You made it to the first interview. You felt like it went well. And then… you got the rejection email.
In this episode, we break down exactly what recruiters are looking for during the first interview (especially the recruiter phone screen), and why candidates get rejected after making it to the top 3% of applicants.
You’ll learn:
Why only ~3% of applicants make it to the interview stage
2 reasons you might get rejected that have nothing to do with you
5 quick fixes you can implement immediately
5 deeper improvements that require practice
How to fix professionalism red flags
The biggest energy mistake candidates make
How to answer salary questions confidently
Why clarity creates confidence (and job offers)
How to close your interview strong
This episode is especially helpful if:
You keep getting interviews but no offers
You feel like interviews “go well” but you don’t move forward
You’re a career pivoter trying to position your experience
You want Christian career coaching that’s both practical and biblical
Cheering you on,
Kelsey Kemp & Audrey Bagarus
BOOK A FREE CALL WITH US THIS WEEK:
https://portal.kelseykemp.com/public/appointment-scheduler/6222458612c06afee1de0032/schedule
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Free Training: How to Find and Land a Job You Feel Called to in 8 Straightforward Steps → https://thecalledcareer.com/our-process
More of a reader? Download the 22 page PDF version instead → https://thecalledcareer.mykajabi.com/PDF
FOLLOW US ON OTHER SOCIALS:
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🎙 Spotify Podcast / https://open.spotify.com/show/5QpGj7lkYYHaZAkLM27R1F
🎙 Apple Podcast / https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/answer-the-call-christian-career-coaching/id1468014993
📱 Pinterest / https://www.pinterest.com/thecalledcareer/
TIME STAMPS
01:00 – The Purpose of a Recruiter Phone Screen
02:45 – Why Only 3% Get the Interview
07:00 – 2 Reasons You Get Rejected
14:30 – Professionalism Red Flags
20:00 – Energy & Contribution vs Getting Mindset
25:40 – 90-Second Interview Prep Plan
28:00 – Salary Expectations: What to Say (and Not Say)
32:00 – Clarity = Confidence (What Recruiters Want to Hear)
39:20 – How to Close Strong and Move Forward
If you’re job hunting and keep getting rejected before you even land an interview, this episode is for you.
This is Part 1 of our “Why You’re Getting Rejected” series, where we break down exactly why recruiters reject candidates at the application stage, including both the obvious mistakes and the lesser-known red flags most people miss.
In this episode, we cover:
Why generic resumes get rejected immediately
How recruiters actually scan applications
Resume, keyword, and formatting mistakes that disqualify candidates
LinkedIn issues recruiters notice but rarely explain
Why being “qualified” still isn’t enough
We hope this episode brings clarity, hope, and encouragement as you make practical changes that actually move the needle in your job search.
Cheering you on,
Kelsey Kemp & Audrey Bagarus
BOOK A FREE CALL WITH US THIS WEEK:
https://portal.kelseykemp.com/public/appointment-scheduler/6222458612c06afee1de0032/schedule
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Free Training: How to Find and Land a Job You Feel Called to in 8 Straightforward Steps → https://thecalledcareer.com/our-process
More of a reader? Download the 22 page PDF version instead → https://thecalledcareer.mykajabi.com/PDF
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🎙 Spotify Podcast / https://open.spotify.com/show/5QpGj7lkYYHaZAkLM27R1F
🎙 Apple Podcast / https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/answer-the-call-christian-career-coaching/id1468014993
📱 Pinterest / https://www.pinterest.com/thecalledcareer/
TIME STAMPS
03:06 – You can land a job!
05:34 – Red flag # 1
09:15 – Red flag # 2
15:16 – Red flag # 3
22:40 – Red flag # 4
26:56 – Lesser known rejection reasons
34:29 – Career hopping, overqualification, and missing narratives
42:51 – Cover letters, LinkedIn gaps, and what to fix next
What does it look like to trust God in your career when the path feels slow, discouraging, and unclear at all?
In this client success story, Audrey sits down with Christina to share her powerful career journey marked by persistence, discernment, and deep trust in God’s provision. As a single foster mom, Christina needed a role that supported both her calling at home and her professional gifts – and that journey came with plenty of pivots, rejection, and waiting.
Audrey and Christina discuss:
How to stay persistent in a long and emotional job search
When to pivot your career strategy without losing sight of your calling
Why networking and referrals matter more than online applications
How faith, intuition, and effort work together in career decisions
What it really means to trust God as your provider
If you’re navigating career confusion, waiting on God for your next step, or searching for work that aligns with your faith and life season, this is for you.
Cheering you on,
Kelsey Kemp & Audrey Bagarus
BOOK A FREE CALL WITH US THIS WEEK:
https://portal.kelseykemp.com/public/appointment-scheduler/6222458612c06afee1de0032/schedule
FREE CAREER COACHING RESOURCES:
Free Training: How to Find and Land a Job You Feel Called to in 8 Straightforward Steps → https://thecalledcareer.com/our-process
More of a reader? Download the 22 page PDF version instead → https://thecalledcareer.mykajabi.com/PDF
FOLLOW US ON OTHER SOCIALS:
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📸 Instagram / https://www.instagram.com/kelsey_thecalledcareer/
👨💻 Linkedin / https://www.linkedin.com/company/thecalledcareer
🎙 Spotify Podcast / https://open.spotify.com/show/5QpGj7lkYYHaZAkLM27R1F
🎙 Apple Podcast / https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/answer-the-call-christian-career-coaching/id1468014993
📱 Pinterest / https://www.pinterest.com/thecalledcareer/
TIME STAMPS
01:17 – Why career change was necessary
09:27 – Hitting roadblocks and learning when to pivot
12:18 – Redefining success and staying persistent
15:04 – Mental health, rejection, and taking breaks
24:22 – Lessons from the story of Ruth
36:56 – How networking and referrals worked
41:34 – Why proactive outreach made the difference
46:00 – Community impact and unexpected blessings
48:28 – Encouragement for discouraged job seekers
Isn’t entrepreneurship the dream?
For years, our client Tyler has lived it – running his own video production business and enjoying the freedom many people chase. But over time, he realized that entrepreneurship wasn’t the calling for this season.
In this episode, Audrey and Tyler discuss:
Why entrepreneurship isn’t always the right path
How to pivot careers without starting over
Breaking into tech sales without prior experience
Using bold outreach in a job search
Trusting God through a career change
If you’re looking for inspiration to make a career pivot, no matter how impossible you may think it is, this episode is for you.
Cheering you on,
Kelsey Kemp & Audrey Bagarus
BOOK A FREE CALL WITH US THIS WEEK:
https://portal.kelseykemp.com/public/appointment-scheduler/6222458612c06afee1de0032/schedule
FREE CAREER COACHING RESOURCES:
Free Training: How to Find and Land a Job You Feel Called to in 8 Straightforward Steps → https://thecalledcareer.com/our-process
More of a reader? Download the 22 page PDF version instead → https://thecalledcareer.mykajabi.com/PDF
FOLLOW US ON OTHER SOCIALS:
🌍 Website / https://thecalledcareer.com/
📸 Instagram / https://www.instagram.com/kelsey_thecalledcareer/
👨💻 Linkedin / https://www.linkedin.com/company/thecalledcareer
🎙 Spotify Podcast / https://open.spotify.com/show/5QpGj7lkYYHaZAkLM27R1F
🎙 Apple Podcast / https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/answer-the-call-christian-career-coaching/id1468014993
📱 Pinterest / https://www.pinterest.com/thecalledcareer/
TIME STAMPS
00:00 – From video production to tech sales
01:09 – Why entrepreneurship wasn’t the end goal
03:37 – The hidden downsides of freelancing
06:21 – Knowing it was time for a career change
07:26 – Fear and uncertainty in a job pivot
09:07 – The power of self-reflection and clarity
12:48 – Choosing sales with confidence
15:47 – What boldness looked like in his job search
19:31 – The LinkedIn message that changed everything
23:09 – Landing the job over the holidays
27:01 – Faith, favor, and God opening doors
30:48 – Encouragement for Christians considering a pivot
34:16 – Final advice and testimony
Does God actually care about the work you do?
In this episode, I’m joined by my friend Jinsoo for one of the most honest and theologically rich conversations we’ve had on the show.
Jinsoo brings a rare perspective shaped by both marketplace leadership and formal theological training, and together we explore what Scripture actually says about work, calling, confusion, and faithfulness.
We discuss:
Why the divide between “ministry” and “marketplace” work is a false one
How free will and God’s sovereignty work together in career decisions
Why faithfulness doesn’t always mean “sucking it up” or staying stuck
How ANY job can participate in God’s kingdom
The 5 Ps of calling
If you’ve ever felt guilty for not working in ministry, confused by career discontentment, or unsure whether your job matters to God at all, this conversation might change how you see your work.
Cheering you on,
Kelsey Kemp
RESOURCES MENTIONED:
Every Good Endeavor by Timothy Keller
Garden City by John Mark Comer
God’s Plans, Your Plans | A sermon by Timothy Keller
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FOLLOW US ON OTHER SOCIALS:
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🎙 Spotify Podcast / https://open.spotify.com/show/5QpGj7lkYYHaZAkLM27R1F
🎙 Apple Podcast / https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/answer-the-call-christian-career-coaching/id1468014993
📱 Pinterest / https://www.pinterest.com/thecalledcareer/
TIME STAMPS
03:42 – Ministry vs Marketplace: Where the Tension Comes From
07:14 – Why “Secular” Work Has Felt Spiritually Lesser
10:38 – Creation, Fall, Redemption, Restoration (A Biblical Framework for Work)
16:35 – Does All Our Work Just Burn Up in the End?
21:25 – Two Extremes Christians Believe About Work
35:22 – Burnout, Endurance, and Being a Child of God First
40:55 – How Any Job Can Serve the Kingdom of God
45:27 – The Five Ps of Calling
53:26 – Why Confusion Can Be God’s Gift
Does God actually care about your business and the work you’re doing?
In this client success story, Audrey sits down with Hannah to share what shifted when she realized that God doesn’t just care about her. He cares about her business too.
When Hannah first came into coaching, she was overwhelmed and unsure whether her ideas could become something sustainable. She was working hard, juggling too many ideas at once, and quietly questioning if her niche even mattered. Without clear direction, the emotional weight of building started to add up.
I know many founders feel this way. We hope this episode becomes a reminder that building a business doesn’t mean carrying everything alone. God cares about the details: the decisions, the doubts, the timing, and when we invite Him into our work honestly, it changes how we build.
Cheering you on,
Kelsey Kemp & Audrey Bagarus
CONNECT WITH HANNAH:
🌍 Website / https://www.thebusybunhead.com
📸 Instagram / https://www.instagram.com/thebusybunhead/
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Free Training: How to Find and Land a Job You Feel Called to in 8 Straightforward Steps → https://thecalledcareer.com/our-process
More of a reader? Download the 22 page PDF version instead → https://thecalledcareer.mykajabi.com/PDF
FOLLOW US ON OTHER SOCIALS:
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🎙 Spotify Podcast / https://open.spotify.com/show/5QpGj7lkYYHaZAkLM27R1F
🎙 Apple Podcast / https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/answer-the-call-christian-career-coaching/id1468014993
📱 Pinterest / https://www.pinterest.com/thecalledcareer/
TIME STAMPS
04:45 – The Fear That Her Business Idea Was Too Small
09:05 – Separating What You’re Good At From What You’re Called To Do
11:40 – How Clarity Changed Her Confidence as a Founder
14:05 – Learning to Invite God Into Business Decisions
16:20 – The Power of Praying Specifically About Your Work
18:55 – Letting Go of Control and Trusting God With Outcomes
22:05 – Why Simplifying Her Business Changed Everything
25:05 – Navigating Emotional Highs and Lows as a Founder
28:10 – “I Get to Do This”: A Healthier Way to Build
34:30 – Encouragement for Anyone Building a Business
37:20 – Where to Find Hannah and Her Work
In this episode, I share the full testimony of my two year journey through infertility.
In this episode, I share what the waiting season was really like: the confusion, the questions, the tears, and all the ways God quietly and patiently reshaped my heart along the way.
In this episode, I talk about:
How God changed my heart toward motherhood and children
Why infertility challenged my faith in ways I’m grateful for
Advice for couples trying to conceive
What actually WORKED and what didn’t
How to ENJOY life while still waiting on God
How this season reshaped my view of vocation, calling, and surrender
What’s next for me and the future of The Called Career
My prayer is that this episode encourages you, gives language to feelings you might not have known how to name, and reminds you that God is still working, even when the answer hasn’t come yet.
And if this resonates with you, or if you’re in need of prayer, please don’t hesitate to reach out. 🤍
Cheering you on,
Kelsey Kemp
BOOK A FREE CALL WITH US THIS WEEK:
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Free Training: How to Find and Land a Job You Feel Called to in 8 Straightforward Steps → https://thecalledcareer.com/our-process
More of a reader? Download the 22 page PDF version instead → https://thecalledcareer.mykajabi.com/PDF
FOLLOW US ON OTHER SOCIALS:
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🎙 Spotify Podcast / https://open.spotify.com/show/5QpGj7lkYYHaZAkLM27R1F
🎙 Apple Podcast / https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/answer-the-call-christian-career-coaching/id1468014993
📱 Pinterest / https://www.pinterest.com/thecalledcareer/
TIME STAMPS
01:50 – Why I’m sharing this story on a career podcast
03:53 – How God changed my heart toward motherhood
07:19 – Worldly views vs. biblical views of children
26:48 – Surgery, endometriosis, and healing
32:03 – Why I chose restorative fertility care (NaPro)
33:14 – The pregnancy test moment
39:38 – First trimester vulnerability and faith
43:54 – What DIDN’T work (fertility teas, ads, myths)
49:58 – How I learned to enjoy the waiting season
59:30 – Trusting God’s plan for motherhood
1:02:04 – Maternity leave plan & future of The Called Career
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