In this episode of the 30 for 30 series, host Jesse Jackson is joined by Anthony Pamii to delve into Bruce Springsteen's album 'Devils and Dust.' Together, they explore the spiritual and thematic elements that permeate the album's tracks. Anthony shares his personal connection to Springsteen's music and provides a unique perspective informed by his background in finance and his role as a pastor. The discussion covers the narratives of love, loss, and the search for connection within the songs, drawing parallels between different tracks and examining their deeper meanings. The episode offers a comprehensive look at one of Springsteen's more reflective works, encouraging listeners to revisit the album and appreciate its intricate storytelling.

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00:00 Welcome to 30 for 30: Springsteen Edition

01:02 Meet Anthony: A Lifelong Springsteen Fan

03:31 Discussing 'Devils & Dust': A Spiritual Perspective

05:27 Personal Connections to Springsteen's Music

09:51 Exploring Themes in 'Devils & Dust'

17:25 The Spirituality in Springsteen's Lyrics

26:15 Exploring the Human Side of Christ

27:03 The Just War and Its Toll on the Soul

27:31 The Long Way from Home

28:29 Finding Home in Maria's Bed

29:07 Biblical References and Symbolism

29:44 The Connection Between Reno and Maria's Bed

33:23 The Role of Horses in Redemption

35:54 Sacrifice and Separation

36:41 The Hitter and the Confessional

37:47 Tools for the Journey: Building or Burning

39:08 The Search for Home

40:34 Final Thoughts and Reflections

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