In this episode, we speak with Ciara, a campaigner from Elbit Out of Victoria, a campaign opposing Elbit Systems' involvement in Victoria’s and Australia's industries over its defence ties with Israel and the US. We discuss Australia’s continued militarised path, rooted in colonial violence and alliances between war corporations, nation-states, and imperial powers that fuel genocidal campaigns, such as the one in Gaza committed by the Israeli state.Since the episode aired, the Victorian government announced it will not renew its memorandum of understanding with the Israeli defence ministry.