In this in depth conversation with artist and researcher Carmelo Pampillonio we talked conspiracy culture and the allure and line of synchronistic and paranoid thinking in the artistic process and otherwise. We spoke in length about the nature of banned content concerning conspiracies and how that informed Carmelo's recent project "Apophenic Realism". We also dove into all mess of subjects like chemtrails, artificial intelligence, language concerning the UFO question and the elusive Gateway Process Dossier. We hope you enjoy this tumble and have a great couple Holidays here, whichever you celebrate.

We have included some snippets of audio, book-ending the podcast, from Carmelo's recent project "Apophenic Realism" 

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