In the future of appraising, those who understand data will lead. The rest will fall behind.

In this Appraisers on Purpose episode, data pioneer Lee Kennedy offers a rare glimpse behind the curtain of AVMs and why they don’t spell the end of traditional appraisal.

Instead, Lee reveals a hopeful future where appraisers aren’t replaced by automation… they’re elevated by it.

As the founder of AVMetrics and a former nuclear engineer, Lee has tested over 100 automated valuation models. But his message to appraisers is clear: you are still essential. Why? Because machines can’t recognize condition, quality, or external influences only you can.

Lee sees the role of the appraiser evolving into something more powerful: a collateral analyst, someone who blends on-the-ground insight with data fluency to make better, faster, more accurate decisions.He also shares what’s coming next: hybrid models, regulatory shifts, and how young appraisers can find their edge in a digital world.

Whether you’re a seasoned pro or just stepping in, Lee’s hopeful take on where we’re headed is a must-hear.

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Jim Park isn’t afraid of AI, he’s afraid of what happens if we don’t evolve with it.

In this episode of “Appraisers on Purpose,” veteran appraiser and former ASC Executive Director Jim Park shares why the appraisal profession’s future is brighter than many think, if we’re willing to evolve.

Jim doesn’t see AI and automation as the enemy. He sees them as a turning point. Appraisers won’t be replaced by machines, they’ll guide them. The job is changing, yes, but the need for trusted human judgment, especially in emotional and high-stakes decisions, is more vital than ever.

Looking ahead, Jim champions a bold but hopeful path: appraisers must diversify beyond lending work, embrace technology, and attract a new generation of professionals. He breaks down the regulatory bottlenecks that have held the industry back, and the urgent reforms that could unlock its full potential.

For Jim, this isn’t just about keeping up. It’s about future-proofing an industry he’s dedicated his life to.

🎧 Tune in to hear Jim Park’s thoughtful take on where we go next and why appraisers still matter.

What do green beans, rewiring a garage, and appraising have in common? For Cody Jetton, they all lead to long-term wealth.

In this episode of Appraisers on Purpose, seasoned appraiser and investor Cody Jetton shares his refreshingly practical approach to building wealth, starting with nothing more than a fixer-upper and a mindset shift.

Cody didn’t inherit a real estate empire. He started small—buying a house, rewiring the garage himself, and slowly climbing the wealth ladder, one improvement and smart decision at a time.

But this episode isn’t just about tools and tiles, it’s about thinking like an investor, even if you’re just getting started. Cody breaks down what he calls the "green bean strategy"—a surprisingly simple metaphor for understanding long-term investing and living below your means.

He also offers insight into why appraisers are uniquely positioned to spot undervalued properties, seize overlooked opportunities, and build cash flow on the side, without giving up their day jobs.

For Cody, wealth isn’t a jackpot. It’s a craft. A discipline. A way to live with purpose.

🎧 Tune in to hear Cody’s thoughtful, encouraging approach to wealth-building—and why the best time to start isn’t someday. It’s now.

𝗪𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗶𝗳 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗮𝗽𝗽𝗿𝗮𝗶𝘀𝗮𝗹 𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗲𝗻𝘀𝗲 𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗹𝗱 𝗵𝗲𝗹𝗽 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗯𝘂𝗶𝗹𝗱 𝘄𝗲𝗮𝗹𝘁𝗵, 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗷𝘂𝘀𝘁 𝗿𝗲𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝘀? In this episode of Appraisers on Purpose, real estate appraiser and investor Seth Epling, shares how thinking like an investor transformed the way he appraises and how appraising sharpened his investment game. For Seth, becoming an appraiser wasn’t the end goal. It was a launchpad. His approach blends hands-on investing with data-driven valuation strategies, creating a powerful advantage in both worlds. One of his standout tools? The Binder Strategy, a respectful, fact-based way to raise rents with tenant buy-in. It’s a game-changer for any landlord looking to grow income without burning bridges. But Seth’s story isn’t just about tactics, it’s about mindset. From scraping by as a trainee to managing multiple properties and planning his next multifamily acquisition, he offers a hopeful roadmap for appraisers who want more: more control, more income, and more meaning in their work. Tune in to hear how Seth Epling is redefining what it means to be an appraiser and how you can too.

How one appraiser got tired of comps and started chasing cash flow.In this episode of Appraisers on Purpose, Liliya Patton flips the script on what it means to be an appraiser and why staying on the sidelines is no longer an option.After a journey that took her from Wall Street to cold-calling toner contracts, Liliya didn’t just pivot into real estate, she became obsessed with understanding value from the inside out.Now, she’s a multifamily investor, asset manager, and working appraiser and she’s here to make the case that every appraiser should also be an investor.For Liliya, appraisal isn’t just a job, it’s a lens for truth. But it was only when she started buying properties herself that she truly understood how value is created, how equity is built, and why tenant turnover and broken boilers matter more than spreadsheets.This episode is packed with real-world examples, hard-won insights, and a hopeful reminder:"You already have the skills — now it’s time to own the asset."Listen in to hear Liliya’s inspiring story and why she believes appraisers who take the leap into investing won’t just understand value, they’ll build it.

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She’s not certified yet, but she’s already using appraisal to build wealth.In this episode of Appraisers on Purpose, we meet Katie Stubblefield, a future appraiser who’s already changing the game.Unlike most, Katie didn’t wait for certification to start building her real estate empire. She’s turned two properties into income-generating machines using co-living, ADUs, and short-term rentals all while staying grounded in values shaped by her nonprofit work.For Katie, appraisal isn’t just a career move. It’s a strategy, a way to align her day job with her long-term vision of financial independence.Her story is a hopeful reminder that you don’t need decades of experience to make real estate work for you. You just need curiosity, courage, and a plan.Tune in to hear how Katie is blending purpose, strategy, and scrappy innovation to build wealth on her own terms and why this mindset could change everything for appraisers ready to think differently.

He didn’t need a license, a loan, or a toolbox—just the right address.

In this episode of “Appraisers on Purpose,” Carlos shares how he earned $15,000—without ever doing an appraisal. That first win wasn’t a fluke. It was proof: appraisers already have the knowledge to build wealth. They just need to use it differently.

Carlos, who started in the field straight out of high school, walks us through how he turned his appraisal background into a gateway for real estate investing. From flipping homes with partners to managing a seven-unit building in Miami, Carlos shows how thinking like an investor—not just a technician—can transform your entire financial future.

His journey is refreshingly honest. He opens up about flops, hard money loans, rough tenants, and one deal that made no profit at all. But through it all, Carlos reveals a hopeful truth:
You don’t need to leave appraising to grow wealth—you just need to leverage what you already know.

Tune in to hear how Carlos used appraiser insight—not elbow grease—to start generating real equity, without burning out in the fee-for-service grind.

How Tyler Warne Turned Appraisals into Ownership — And Why You Can Too.In this episode of Appraisers on Purpose, Tyler Warne delivers a powerful wake-up call: appraisers shouldn’t just value deals they should own them.Rather than treating appraising as the ceiling, Tyler sees it as a launchpad. With years of entrepreneurial grit and a sharp eye for data, he leveraged his valuation skills to build a thriving commercial real estate portfolio, broker deals, and even buy out a firm.Tyler shares how he stair-stepped out of a staff role, used his appraisal income and relationships to secure equity in projects, and turned one $50K investment into a portfolio worth millions.But this isn’t just about Tyler’s wins.It’s about the path forward for every appraiser willing to look beyond the report to see the relationships, the insights, and the opportunities they’re already sitting on.Tune in to hear how appraisers can shift from behind the scenes to leading the deal and why the richest person at the table should be you.

If today’s episode got you thinking differently about what’s possible in real estate, we’d love to help you take the next step.

Whether you need a rock-solid appraisal, expert insight, or a trusted partner to guide your property decisions — we’re here for it.

Learn more at www.pahroo.com — and let’s build something smart, together.

Before she helped shape appraisal policy, she almost starved the chickens.In this inspiring episode of Appraisers on Purpose, Lisa Desmarais shares her extraordinary journey, from pig farms and Shakespeare to writing the standards that shape the appraisal profession.Lisa reminds us that success in this industry isn’t about having a perfect résumé or linear path, it’s about curiosity, resilience, and the courage to say yes before you feel ready.She reveals how embracing complexity, not avoiding it, led her to lead 400-page valuation studies and help rewrite industry standards. And how USPAP’s flexibility gave her the freedom to grow into opportunities that once felt far beyond reach.But what stands out most is her message of hope: that there is room for every kind of thinker in this field, and that even the most non-traditional path can lead to impact.Tune in to hear Lisa Desmarais’s deeply personal and empowering take on what it really means to grow, lead, and thrive in today’s appraisal profession.Need clarity on a complex appraisal? Visit us at www.pahroo.com, we thrive on the work others avoid.

What do you learn when your first appraisals are in a collapsing market? Everything.In our latest “Appraisers on Purpose” podcast episode, James Graber shares a surprising truth: even in the middle of chaos, appraisal can be a career of stability, growth, and impact.James began his career just as the 2008 financial crisis hit. No comps. No certainty. Just fractured condos, falling knives, and hard lessons. But instead of retreating, he leaned in—and learned how to lead.Now, with decades of experience, James believes the profession is more promising than ever. He shares how mastering the fundamentals, staying client-focused, and adapting to new technologies have opened doors to national leadership roles.For James, the future of appraisal belongs to those who see it as more than a job, it’s a chance to grow, lead, and build something that lasts.