This week we welcome back friends of the show Chris Massey and April Mims for part two of their recent discussion with Jim.

April is the SVP of Public Policy at hims & hers, where her goal is to secure federal, state, and local healthcare policy that increases access and empowers patients.

And Chris is an Operating Partner on the Craft Ventures platform team focused on helping founders with issues related to government relations, public affairs, social impact, and diversity & inclusion.

In this episode Chris, April, and Jim discuss the unique rewards and challenges of in-house government relations.

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