Host Daniel Raimi talks with Professor Shahzeen Attari of the Indiana University's O'Neill School of Public and Environmental Affairs. Daniel and Shahzeen discuss her work on how the personal behavior of climate change communicators can affect the reception of their message. If a climate scientist uses a lot of energy at home or is a frequent flyer, do they lose credibility? It's a really challenging question—one that Shahzeen's work illuminates. The results, and this conversation, can help all of us think critically about our own energy use.

References and recommendations:

"Climate Change Communicators’ Carbon Footprints Affect Their Audience’s Policy Support" by Shahzeen Z. Attari, David H. Krantz, and Elke U. Weber; https://rd.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10584-019-02463-0

"Statements about Climate Researchers’ Carbon Footprints Affect Their Credibility and the Impact of Their Advice" by Shahzeen Z. Attari, David H. Krantz, and Elke U. Weber; https://rd.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10584-016-1713-2

"The Overstory" by Richard Powers; http://www.richardpowers.net/the-overstory/

"New York 2140" by Kim Stanley Robinson; https://www.kimstanleyrobinson.info/content/new-york-2140

"First Reformed"; https://a24films.com/films/first-reformed

"Years and Years"; https://www.hbo.com/years-and-years

Author Ursula K. Le Guin; https://www.ursulakleguin.com/