George Packer is an Atlantic staff writer who has been one of the incisive observers of American culture and politics for over two decades. He joins Preet to discuss the potential impact of a Trump indictment on the 2024 presidential election, whether we should be optimistic about America’s future, and his recent Atlantic article criticizing “equity language.”

Plus, why is it taking so long for the Manhattan DA to indict Donald Trump? 

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