"My uncle was shot. My father was choked and thrown in a swimming pool. Their mother was shot playing the organ. There were assassination attempts on various members of our family, including me." Dr. Alveda King—niece of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.—joins us to talk about what the King family actually endured, what her uncle was really like, and why forgiveness isn't optional for Christians.

But this episode goes deeper than an interview. After Dr. King's segment, Heather and Jasmine have an unfiltered conversation about what most churches won't touch:

→ The media's agenda to divide black and white believers

→ Why some white Christians deny racism exists—and why some black leaders stay silent on abortion

→ The pressure on spiritual leaders to post the "right" thing

→ What it actually looks like to fight for unity behind closed doors This isn't a polished, safe conversation.

It's two women—one white, one black—processing years of hard talks, awkward questions, and real reconciliation. If you're tired of surface-level unity statements and want to see what kingdom relationships actually look like when they're tested, watch this.

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