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In this powerful episode of the Cross Talk Podcast, we sit down with Richard and John, two men with profound recovery journeys. Richard shares his harrowing path from smoking pot at 12 and shooting heroin as a teenager to finding a moment of clarity that led to 43.5 years of continuous sobriety. He opens up about the "gift of desperation," losing nine of his thirteen childhood friends, and how he moved from blaming his parents to taking full responsibility for his life.
John offers a deep look into the generational trauma and codependency that fueled his addiction, explaining how he learned to be a "chameleon" to survive. Together, they explore the pivotal moments that changed everything, the power of written inventory to overcome resentment, and the life-saving importance of sponsorship and contrary action. This is a raw and honest conversation about hitting bottom, the courage to change, and the ongoing work of building a life you don't need to escape from.
Access our website for the full notes for this episode at crosstalkofficial.com
Video is available on https://www.youtube.com/@CROSSTALKPODCASTS/videos
Follow CROSSTALK on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/crosstalkpodcasts/
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In this powerful episode of the Cross Talk Podcast, we sit down with Richard and John, two men with profound recovery journeys. Richard shares his harrowing path from smoking pot at 12 and shooting heroin as a teenager to finding a moment of clarity that led to 43.5 years of continuous sobriety. He opens up about the "gift of desperation," losing nine of his thirteen childhood friends, and how he moved from blaming his parents to taking full responsibility for his life.
John offers a deep look into the generational trauma and codependency that fueled his addiction, explaining how he learned to be a "chameleon" to survive. Together, they explore the pivotal moments that changed everything, the power of written inventory to overcome resentment, and the life-saving importance of sponsorship and contrary action. This is a raw and honest conversation about hitting bottom, the courage to change, and the ongoing work of building a life you don't need to escape from.
Access our website for the full notes for this episode at crosstalkofficial.com
Video is available on https://www.youtube.com/@CROSSTALKPODCASTS/videos
Follow CROSSTALK on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/crosstalkpodcasts/
𝗥𝗮𝘁𝗲 𝗧𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗣𝗼𝗱𝗰𝗮𝘀𝘁 | ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
We’re so grateful for your support each episode! If you’re enjoying the show, please help us reach others by sharing it with someone who’d love it and leaving a review here!

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