The Arizona Coyotes have been front and centre in hockey's great analytics debate. However, according to Jeff Ulmer (and most coaches whose paycheque depends on wins and losses, at least to a degree), there's no debate: analytics are a tool for improvement. Coaches use the knowledge to varying degrees, and everyone has their preference, but for Coyotes skills and special ops coordinator Jeff Ulmer, the Coyotes are leading the way, and it starts upstairs with GM John Chayka. The problem is that the wins haven't come yet. Will they? Listen to Kelvin and Aaron's interview with Jeff to find out what he believes.