Cam Anderson, Associate Director at Upper House, talks with friend and fellow artist Makoto Fujimura about his new book, Art and Faith: A Theology of Making (Yale University Press, 2021). They cover a wide range of topics including the nature of creativity, imagination and faith, and an artist's response to the world's brokenness.

Makoto Fujimura is a world-renowned artist, writer, and speaker. Of his many accolades, he founded the International Arts Movement and served as a presidential appointee on the National Council of the Arts from 2003-2009. His other books include Culture Care: Reconnecting with Beauty for Our Common Life (IVP, 2017).

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