It’s our 80th episode, so you know it’s a great one! We’re talking with Kat Mustatea, who’s a poet, playwright and technologist. Kat writes about the intersection of technology and the arts for Forbes, and she’s currently interested in art in the age of machine intelligence. Kat takes us on her path from mathematics to sculpture to theater and beyond, and Christina shares an idea that Cate calls a “creative grenade.”

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