Dr. Melissa Satterberg, PhD, LMFT, ATR-BC was part of the first cohort of Notre Dame de Namur University's PhD Art Therapy program. Dr. Satterberg noticed a large gap in her art therapy training around issues impacting the LGBTQ+ community. In this interview, she shares about the Kaleidoscope art therapy curriculum that she developed in response to this gap. She also reflects on her work as a supervisor, educator and art therapist and she shares her views on "telling folks what we do" as art therapists as we are often, the only art therapists within a team of other clinicians. We also got to pick her brain on how she keeps art therapy alive and present in community.

Dr. Gwen Sanders currently works as a professor at Notre Dame de Namur University Art Therapy Department and works in private practice in the Bay Area. In this interview, she shares about her experience using art therapy in a variety of environments and her lessons on “taking up space” as an art therapist.