Sofie talks to American comedian Shane Torres about the concept of a podcast handshake, Martin Luther King Jr, The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, growing up with liberal views in a conservative area, filling the pothole yourself, therapy on the phone, how grief can change a person, the safety of familiarity, faith, anger, masculinity, honesty, victimhood, feminism and comedy, a changing comedy climate, Louis CK and separating art from artist, rehabilitation, caring what people think of you and the politics of sliding into DMs.

Trigger warning – anxiety and OCD, grief, rape and assault in comedy, paedophilia

Artwork by Linda Brinkhaus

Jingle by Bailey Lenart

Produced by Sarah Garvey

A huge thanks to Phoenix Artist Club in London for letting me record my podcast and do my shows with them. Special thanks to Peter Dunbar.

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