Daydreams, hidden ambitions and a never-before-shared passion project—Joy and Teresa are telling each other their secret goals for the first time. A coffee table book, a herd of cows and St. Sulpice all get laid bare in this swap of secrets. In Rabbit Holes and Recommendations, Teresa has discovered a mysterious cure for insomnia, and Joy has discovered a band that everybody else discovered 30 years ago. The episode ends with both artists reliving the day in high school that they were put on a bus and taken to motivational speaker, David Toma, to get scared straight. If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime!

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Nick Bantock's Griffin & Sabine

An Artist "Sketchbook Wandering" Wanders the St. Sulpice Neighborhood

Plein Air artists encountering cows

AI Generated ‘Boring History’ Videos are Flooding YouTube

"Is This It" Debut Album by The Strokes

1983 News Article about Speaker David Toma

From Sylvia Plath to Wayne Thiebaud, Joy and Teresa are talking about the creators who’ve inspired and influenced their work. Whether it’s Plath’s ability to impart “an impression of a feeling that you don’t know what to do with,” or Thiebaud’s colorful shadows, these old-school influencers are at the heart of an interesting discussion about early inspirations.

In Rabbit Holes and Recommendations, Teresa talks about the Symbolism Movement and her discovery of a haunting painting, while Joy recommends an under-the-radar Jack London book. The unlikely piece-de-resistance of the episode occurs when Joy closes the episode quizzing Teresa on 1980s alcoholic beverages, including the (thankfully) long-forgotten Hairy Buffalo.

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The Applicant by Sylvia Plath

The New Oxford Book of American Verse

Artist Wayne Thiebaud

Island of the Dead by Arnold Böcklin

Hairy Buffalo Drink Recipe

The History of Wine Coolers

Joy and Teresa are back at it, starting season two by workshopping four seemingly-eccentric journal entries (rodents seeking revenge, a strange golf tournament, big strawberries, pickups at the gym), determining which “is something” that could be transformed into a developed story. The twosome workshop the ideas, settling on a concept, sharing their creative process as the discussion moves along.

Teresa goes down a rabbit hole to explore Cabinets of Curiosities, and Joy raves about the André 3000 interview on Rick Rubin’s Tetragrammaton podcast.

The episode ends with Joy and Teresa sharing memories about the first time they each went on the internet and what web browsing was like for young GenX’ers, the last generation to know life without the internet.

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Meetup Website

Steven Pressfield: The Foolscap Method of Story Outlines

The Erewhon Viral Strawberry

Massimo Listri Cabinet of Curiosities

André 3000 Interview on Tetragrammaton

Gabocorp Website

The History of Netscape

In this highlights episode, Joy and Teresa bring back several of their most popular segments. Their discussion about what to do when you’re too busy for art struck a creative chord with listeners who shared their own hacks for making time for art after hearing this discussion. Teresa goes down the rabbit hole that is Elizabeth Siddal and Joy is dissecting the old-fashioned card game, cribbage. The two end by pondering one of life’s more perplexing questions: why are banana clips and Candie’s clogs back in style?

Joy and Teresa are on hiatus enjoying the final days of summer by taking a holiday in the South of France. Just kidding! Joy is getting kids back to college and Teresa is helping her mom move to a new house. In the meantime, they have carefully assembled a “bespoke” offering of their favorite segments from season one. From losing a limb to having a bunny mistaken for a gopher, they are opening up about the fears they each have as artists. They try to figure out how to write in the style of the Twilight Zone, discuss the hidden messages in flowers and recount the horrors of the President’s Physical Fitness Tests of their youth.

Sunlight, sound systems and storage: in the finale to season one of Artsy Types, Joy and Teresa talk about the studio spaces they have, and the studio spaces they dream of. The episode kicks off with shared updates on Teresa’s poetry workshop and Joy’s attempt at playing Camille Saint-Saens on the piano. In Rabbit Holes and Recommendations, Joy is diving into the Andy Warhol Diaries on Netflix, and Teresa is reading The Book of Symbols. The two also reminisce about 1980’s board games including Mouse Trap, Monopoly and Uncle Wiggily. The podcast will be on hiatus until after Labor Day but will return with listeners choosing the first topic of the new season via an upcoming follower poll on @ArtsyTypesPod on Instagram.

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The Swan

Is Dark Academia the Only Microtrend Built to Last? Architectural Digest

In Her Studio

The Andy Warhol Diaries: the inner life of an artist no one really knew

The Book of Symbols

Mouse Trap Board Game

Uncle Wiggily Board Game

Making money, going viral, and having peers compliment your work are all ways of measuring results as an artist. Joy and Teresa are trying to figure out the best barometer for success in art. In the penultimate episode of season one of Artsy Types, they’re asking if there’s shame in chasing social media, if wanting to have sales is a bad thing, and they’re confronting the daunting possibility that creators may never know if they’ve arrived as an artist.

While not the bibliophile Joy is, Teresa confidently claims her territory as an audio-bibliophile and surprises with a recommendation instead of a rabbit hole. Joy has just discovered an R&B EP that re-imagines Radiohead classics. She deftly asks permission to interject princess snark into the segment and wraps the episode up with brief musings about walkie-talkies, but not before the two commiserate that “bespoke” has made its way into the mainstream.

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Follow Artsy Types on Instagram for more conversation and references that relate back to the show.

Humanity, Can We Please Stop Abusing the Word 'Bespoke'?

Joy's Short Story: The Bats

Learn about the Libby App for AudioBooks, e-Books and More

This Album of Mashed-Up D'Angelo and Radiohead Covers Is All You Need

From catastrophes to rolling vineyards to beautiful, but sorrowful, felled birds, Joy and Teresa are talking about the themes that make repeat appearances in their artistic expressions and try to understand why. They share a story they received in response to the last episode that talked about creative ways to find time for art. In Rabbit Holes and Recommendations, the discussion starts with the early works of Thomas Kinkade and moves to Elizabeth Siddal, one of art’s most famous muses and the surprising twist to the story of her life (and death!) This episode’s nostalgia segment puts to rest the story of how Teresa was allowed (and whether she even had permission) to paint a Peter Gabriel mural in her college dorm.

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The Unseen Art of Thomas Kinkade by James Gurney

The Art of James Gurney

Ophelia by Sir John Everett Millais, 1851

The Pre-Raphaelites

Elizabeth Siddal as Herself: Artist, and Muse.

Highgate Cemetery

So, by Peter Gabriel

The Art of the Band T-Shirt

Teresa and Joy commiserate that their creative pursuits have been put on the the backburner as Teresa helps her mom move and Joy has kids home from college. All hope is not lost, however, as the two share ideas for keeping creative sparks alive when life gets hectic—including a technological idea that may surprise! In Rabbit Holes and Recommendations, Teresa raises the bar with her acquisition of a Chautauqua Desk and Joy immediately lowers it with a glowing recommendation of. . . truck stops. The episode ends with memories of two books from their childhood, a Tolkien classic and Misty of Chincoteague, a beloved story of a horse that results in a meandering discussion of plastic cemetery flowers.

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The Red Wheelbarrow by William Carlos Williams

This is Just to Say by William Carlos Williams

Billy Collins's Tips for Writing Prompts

Chautauqua Desk

Love's "Travel Stops"

Time Magazine's Retrospective on The Hobbit

Smithsonian Magazine's "True Story of Misty"

Misty of Chincoteague Foundation

Etsy's Selection of 1970s Plastic Flowers

From Andy Warhol to Picasso to a few sayings that just get tossed around, we’re counting down the quotes that rattle around our heads while we’re creating. Teresa’s rabbit holes have again led to photography techniques, this time exploring the history of spirit photography and methods for recreating ectoplasm tintype photographs, while Joy is at the kitchen table playing cribbage. In the throwback segment, Joy quizzes Teresa on her memory of banana clips and Candies clogs, while Teresa disavows the invention of scrunchies and comes clean on her history with Birkenstocks.

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Picasso Quote

The History of Spirit Photography

Recreating Ectoplasm Tintype Photographs

Alarming Examples of Creatures in Medieval Art

How to Play Cribbage

How to Play Spite and Malice

Candies Clogs at Free People

The History of Banana Clips