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Seth Davis is a veteran sports journalist and broadcaster, and The New York Times best-selling author of Wooden: A Coach's Life and When March Went Mad: The Game That Transformed Basketball. He is the co-author of the just-published memoir It's Hard for Me to Live with Me, written with NBA veteran and University of Kentucky basketball legend Rex Chapman—a book that transcends (and upends!) the sports memoir genre and stands as a devasting and inspiring story about the human struggle for self-acceptance.

Over the course of his career, Seth has written for The Athletic and Sports Illustrated and served as a college basketball studio analyst and reporter at CBS Sports.

"You have to make the phone ring," he says, echoing a piece of advice once shared with him by his one-time SI colleague and longtime friend and mentor Rick Reilly, of his efforts to grow his game from magazine and broadcast journalism and jump-start his career as an author and collaborator.

Join us as we celebrate "March Madness" with one of our leading sportswriters who is fast becoming a sought-after ghostwriter, calling on the hard-won experience he's developed in thousands of locker room and post-game interviews to help his subjects reflect on the games we play and the reasons we play them.

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• Wake Up with Purpose! (with Sister Jean Dolores Schmidt)
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Veteran journalist and collaborator Mark Dagostino is the author of more than two dozen books written with some of our most compelling public figures. He has helped to write seven New York Times best-sellers, including the #1 best-selling The Magnolia Story, with Chip & Joanna Gaines, co-stars of the hit HGTV show "Fixer Upper."

Mark began his career at The Boston Globe, as a general assignment news reporter, before moving on to a ten-year stint at People, where he turned his focus to popular culture as a correspondent, columnist, and senior writer. While at People, he conducted interviews with such celebrities as Michael J. Fox, Christopher Reeve, Justin Timberlake, Sting, Ben Afleck, and Nicole Kidman, developing many of the skills that would help him become one of the most sought-after collaborators in publishing. Join us for an engaging, insightful conversation on what it takes to pivot from journalism to the journalism-adjacent field of ghostwriting.

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"What really amazed me here was that so many of the authors who submitted stories wrote something completely outside their genre," reflects best-selling author Douglas Preston, one of the project editors behind the dynamic new collaborative novel Fourteen Days. "This book is full of all kinds of weird stories."

Yes, it is. And so is podcast guest Douglas Preston, co-author of dozens of New York Times best-selling thrillers written with his longtime writing partner Lincoln Child—a shining example of what it means to write in collaboration. In all, Preston has published 39 books of fiction and non-fiction. In addition to books, Preston writes about archaeology and paleontology for the New Yorker. He has worked as an editor for the American Museum of Natural History in New York City and taught nonfiction writing at Princeton University and is the recipient of numerous writing awards in the U.S. and Europe. He served as president of the Authors Guild from 2019 to 2023.

Set in a Lower East Side tenement in the early days of the COVID-19 lockdowns, Fourteen Days turns on a narrative frame written by Preston, with contributions from a disparate collection of contemporary writers, headed by fellow project editor Margaret Atwood. In addition to Atwood and Preston, the novel features the "voices" of Charlie Jane Anders, Joseph Cassara, Jennine Capó Crucet, Angie Cruz, Pat Cummings, Sylvia Day, Emma Donoghue, Dave Eggers, Diana Gabaldon, Tess Gerritsen, John Grisham, Maria Hinojosa, Mira Jacob, Erica Jong, CJ Lyons, Celeste Ng, Tommy Orange, Mary Pope Osborne, Alice Randall, Ishmael Reed, Roxana Robinson, Nelly Rosario, James Shapiro, Hampton Sides, R.L. Stine, Nafissa Thompson-Spires, Monique Truong, Scott Turow, Luis Alberto Urrea, Rachel Vail, Weike Wang, Caroline Randall Williams, De'Shawn Charles Winslow, and Meg Wolitzer.

All proceeds from the book will be directed to the Authors Guild Foundation, the charitable and educational arm of the Authors Guild, dedicated to empowering all writers, from all backgrounds, at all stages of their careers.

Learn more about Douglas Preston:

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• The Lost Time: And Other Real-Life Stories of Bones, Burials, and Murder

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"Sometimes the truth is just too much, and sometimes it's not enough."

That's a line from Sarah Tomlinson's new novel, The Last Days of the Midnight Ramblers, the story of a young ghostwriter scratching at the truth that threatens the legend of the fictional rock band of the title.

A veteran journalist, essayist, music critic, ghostwriter, and memoirist, Sarah's work has appeared in The Boston Globe, Los Angeles Review of Books, Marie Claire, Los Angeles Times, Publishers Weekly, and Huffington Post. Her new novel puts an exclamation point on the maxim that says writers should write what they know: Sarah has covered the recording industry and the music scene for years, writing for Spin.com, Billboard.com and penning a local music column for the Boston Phoenix. She's even written band bios for record labels like Virgin, Red Ink/Columbia, and MySpace Records, and contributed to the electronic press kits for artists on Warner Bros. Records.

As a ghostwriter, she has helped to write more than a dozen books, including three New York Times best-sellers and the forthcoming Dancing on the Edge, co-authored with the iconoclastic actor, dancer, choreographer Russ Tamblyn.

Join us for a candid conversation on what it means to pick up a pen on behalf of someone else, and then to set that pen down to tell the tale of a ghostwriter looking to make sense of the senselessness and sensibility of a rock 'n roll life gone sideways.

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"How do you tell someone else's story, but make it authentic?"

That's the question at the heart of this episode of As Told To: The Ghostwriting Podcast, which is really a repurposed, repackaged edition of a recent episode of Missing Pages, the critically-acclaimed investigative podcast hosted by renowned literary critic Bethanne Patrick—known to readers across social media as "The Book Maven."

Bethanne and her production team at The Podglomerate, a leading producer of original podcasts, pull back the curtain on the lucrative culture of non-fiction ghostwriting, and offer a compelling take on the art and practice of writing in collaboration, and the role "literary chameleons" have come to play in the telling of high-profile tales. Along the way, Bethanne looks at the evolution of the practice, and interviews ghostwriting veterans like Jon Sternfeld and Dan Gerstein, both former As Told To guests, as well as cookbook author J.J. Goode. She also spends some time chatting with As Told To host Daniel Paisner, who weighs in with a hard-won insight or two.

This special crossover edition of As Told To is being presented with the permission of the Podglomerate team, and Bethanne Patrick, and is intended to further the conversation among writers and creatives who continue to write and create in service of someone else's voice or vision.

Also listen to Part II of the two-part Missing Pages exploration of the ghostwriting trade: "Ghostwriting: Fiction – Will the Real Tom Clancy Please Stand Up?"

Learn more about Bethanne Patrick and Missing Pages:

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• Bethanne's memoir, Life B: Overcoming Double Depression
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Kevin Anderson is one of the publishing industry's leading authorities on ghostwriting and editorial development. As the founder, CEO and editor-in-chief of Kevin Anderson & Associates, a Manhattan-based firm that specializes in developing collaborative projects, he is uniquely positioned to weigh in on what it takes to write a best-selling book. His firm represents over 200 widely-published writers, and relies on the editorial and publishing expertise of more than a dozen former Big 5 acquisitions editors.

"A client who hires a ghostwriter is still the author of their book," Anderson once told The Washington Post. "With the exception of some research-based projects, the content, ideas and concepts for ghostwritten books come directly from the client… A ghostwriter is an interpreter and a translator, not an author, which is why our clients deserve full credit for authoring their books."

Join us for an informative conversation on how many of our collaborative books are conceived, and how they fight their way through the publishing process and onto our bookshelves.

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• Scott Cawhon's Five Nights at Freddy's

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"I'm quite good at detaching and passing the tissues and just listening," says Andrew Crofts, one of the world's most prolific ghostwriters, on his ability to help his clients share their most intimate, most harrowing, most traumatic experiences in the pages of their memoirs.

As the author or co-author of more than eighty books, including a dozen Sunday Times best-sellers, Andrew is well-known in England for his work behind-the-scenes with top television personalities, footballers, politicians, and ordinary individuals caught in extraordinary circumstances.

He is also well-known among publishers for his willingness to take on any subject, and to collaborate with any celebrity, as long as the project comes with the promise of a good story. "Extremes of evil are as interesting as extremes of goodness," he writes, of his ability to work with heroes and villains alike. In fact, he once told a reporter for The Guardian that he is grateful he was not born early enough to pursue this type of work during Adolf Hitler's rise to power. "I have a horrible feeling that if I'd got the call from Germany in the 1930s," he said, "I would have hopped on that plane like a Mitford."

Learn more about Andrew Crofts:

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Links to some of Crofts' collaborations discussed in our interview:

• The Boy Who Never Gave Up, with Dr. Emmanuel Taban:
• A Boy Called Hyppo, with Hyppolite Ntigurirwa:
• Sold, with Zana Muhsen

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"Voices of their generation. Except for Greta Thunberg. And Malala. Amanda Gorman . . .you know what, I take it back." — Jimmy Fallon

That's high praise for the comedy writing duo of Rebecca Shaw and Ben Kronengold, from their former boss at NBC's "The Tonight Show," where our podcast guests became the two youngest writers in that program's storied history and earned a shared spot on Variety's "Power of Young Hollywood Impact List" in 2021.

Shaw and Kronengold began dating and writing together as freshmen at Yale University and capped their undergraduate career with a 2018 commencement address that went a little bit viral. (Okay, it went a whole lotta viral – their speech was seen by more than 5 million people, and landed them an agent…and, eventually, their "Tonight Show" gig.)

Together, they've just published a disarmingly funny collection of essays, stories, and humor pieces called Naked in the Rideshare: Stories of Gross Miscalculations, which was hailed by actor and comedian Will Ferrell as "incredibly original, bizarre, and funny" prior to publication by William Morrow in November.

Join us as we talk about what it means to find your voice in collaboration with your partner, and to take that voice to one of the most dynamic writing rooms in late night television – and beyond.

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George McFly's A Match Made in Space, from "Back to the Future"…

Hank Moody's God Hates Us All," from "Californication"…

Dr. Frederick Frankenstein's How I Did It, from "Young Frankenstein"…

Some of our best-loved movies and television shows feature books written by one of the lead characters. In many cases, the publication of those "books" becomes a central plot point or a running gag. (Think Handbook for the Recently Deceased, from "Beetlejuice.") In other cases, those books leap from the screen and onto our bookshelves—IRL, as the kids like to say.

That's the case with Look Out for the Little Guy, the in-movie memoir by Scott Lang, also known as Ant-Man, as seen on screen in the Marvel Studios blockbuster, "Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania." The book was published by Hyperion Avenue in September and became an immediate New York Times best-seller, but here's a news flash: it wasn't really written by Scott Lang, the "Everyman Avenger" played in the movie by actor Paul Rudd. And no, it wasn't really written by Paul Rudd, whose face graces the front cover of the book in stores and online, and as it appears as a prop in the movie.

In fact, the book was really written by our guest Rob Kutner, a veteran comedy writer who has collected five Emmys, a Peabody and a Grammy writing for such shows as "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart," on Comedy Central, and "Conan," on TBS. Rob's other television writing credits include "Teen Titans Go," "Angry Birds: Summer Madness" and "Dennis Miller Live," and he has also written material for the Oscars, Emmys, and MTV Movie Awards broadcasts, as well as for two White House Correspondents Dinners.

He is also the author of Apocalypse How: Turn the End-Times into the Best of Times! and the just-published Snot Goblins and Other Tasteless Tales, with illustrations by David DeGrand.

Join us as Rob shares what it was like to channel the voice of a fictional character to craft a page-turning memoir of an ex-con turned world-saving superhero, and to be tasked with the caretaking of the life and legacy of one of the most beloved characters in the Marvel Universe.

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"If I'm developing a recipe for a client, or for my own books, I'm all about people telling me what they think about it, what it invokes for them, what they would do differently," notes New York Times best-selling cookbook author Adeena Sussman about the collaborative nature of preparing recipes for readers.

If there's anybody who knows what it means work in partnership in the kitchen, it's Adeena Sussman—the co-author of 15 books, including the best-selling Cravings series written in collaboration with model and television personality Chrissy Teigen. Adeena is also the co-author of The Sprinkles Baking Book, written with Candace Nelson, the noted pastry chef and founder of Sprinkles cupcakes.

Adeena's latest solo book, Shabbat: Recipes and Rituals from My Table to Yours, celebrating (and reimagining!) the traditional foods that have long graced her family's Shabbat table, became an immediate best-seller upon publication in September 2023. The book is a follow-up to Adeena's 2019 cookbook Sababa, named one of the best cookbooks of the year by The New York Times, Bon Appetit, and Food & Wine.

A lifelong visitor to Israel who has been writing about that country's food culture for almost twenty years, Adeena lives, cooks, and writes in Tel Aviv, in the shadow of that city's famed Carmel Market.

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