All around the country at the moment are family discussions and debates about what to do about that one relative or friend who still doesn't want to get vaccinated.

The numbers of double vaccinated people continue to rise as people realise it's in their benefit to get the jab.

But there will always be holdouts, no matter what policies are put in place.

So how much does it matter if someone at the Christmas party is unvaccinated when nearly 90 percent of us 12 or older are double dosed?

Also on today's show:

* How careful should my vaccinated pregnant daughter be about where she goes and who she sees?

* What's the latest science on viral loads?