Transcript: https://wearenotsaved.com/2016/07/09/atheists-and-unavoidability-of-the-divine/

The lack of some universally recognized logical system of morality means you can rely on God for morality or you can rely on culture for morality, but in both cases you’re relying on religion. You’re just arguing about the source of it. Atheists want to toss religion out the window with God. But it turns out God is hard to get rid of, as we see what happens when atheists actually set about to write.