Until recently, Audrey Watters was one of the most prominent and prolific critics of digital technology and education – dubbed  ‘ed-tech's Cassandra'.

Then in 2021, she published a book, quit Twitter, and wound up her highly influential ‘Hack Education’ blog.

In this episode, we catch up with Audrey about her new ‘Second Breakfast’ project, and her pivot to writing about fitness technologies, food and exercise.

Audrey talks about the parallels between fitness tech and digital education, the enduring legacy of BF Skinner in current Silicon Valley thinking, as well as her reflections on the relentless grind of critiquing EdTech.

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Link to Audrey’s ‘Second Breakfast’ Sub stack