Gene and Chris are joined by veteran UFO researcher Jerome Clark to interview David Booher, author of "No Return: The Gerry Irwin Story, UFO Abduction or Covert Operation?" The book includes a foreword from Jacques Vallee. In 1959, two years before the Betty and Barney Hill UFO abduction, a young soldier had a mysterious experience on a lonesome road in Utah, where the arrival of a blazing object was followed by a 24-hour blackout. Just what did happen to Irwin? As Booher details this incredible experience and its possible implications, Clark provides the historical perspective and asks compelling questions to help flesh out this amazing tale and how it impacted Irwin's life.

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