Authentic Media Podcast

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  • "I Built a Breast Pump Then God Said Quit" ft. Mykel Davis

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    If you're a mompreneur juggling products and purpose, this one's for you. 

    Mykel Davis was a journalism major who invented the J35 wearable breast pump from scratch, lost $100K on 1,000 activewear sets (sold 3), got hit with 125% tariffs, then heard God say "you're the horse, not the merch."

    In this conversation with Danielle J. Martin, she breaks down quitting the products to become the brand, getting credentialed for Essence Fest & WNBA All-Star in 6 days after shutting down her site, and the new boundary: anyone who mishandles her in this season is gone.

    This season wraps up with Mykel Davis, founder and CEO of Muscle Up Mommy and creator of the J35 wearable breast pump, about what it takes to scale a self-funded tech company while navigating motherhood, fitness, and media hosting. 

    Mykel shares how she started Muscle Up Mommy in 2016 after having twins, built products like activewear and waist trainers, and later created the J35 after realizing the market lacked a mobile pump that allowed breastfeeding and pumping simultaneously. 

    She describes risky investments (including $100,000 into activewear), rapid growth for the pump, using systems and family help, and lessons on confidence, asking for support, and knowing your numbers. 

    She also recounts spiritual guidance that shifted her from product focus to media opportunities, leading to credentialed coverage at Essence Fest and WNBA All-Star Weekend through partnerships and community support.

    TIMESTAMPS:

    00:00 Risky Investment Lessons
    02:05 Rapid Fire Warmup
    08:03 Muscle Up Mommy Origin Story
    11:20 Inventing The J35 Pump
    15:24 Betting Big On Launch
    19:11 Letting Go To Level Up
    22:24 Self-Funded And Asking For Help
    24:19 Daddy Shark Tank Pitch
    32:22 Scaling Inventory Fast
    33:02 Selling Out Pitfalls
    33:32 Family Help and Systems
    34:33 Automating Support with AI
    35:57 Bigger Asks as You Grow
    37:53 Be the Face of Brand
    41:01 Essence Fest Partnerships
    45:51 Value Beyond Followers
    47:35 Multi-Passion Brand Story
    52:05 Essence Turning Point
    54:28 Products Holding You Back
    59:07 Taraji Dream and Testimony
    01:10:02 Brother Joins The Crew
    01:12:34 Visibility And Connections
    01:13:06 WNBA Weekend Provision
    01:17:08 Podcast Divine Alignment
    01:20:24 Stripping And Obedience
    01:26:38 Rebuilding Heart Posture
    01:32:11 Masterclass To All Star
    01:36:35 Kissed By God Moment

    Connect with Mykel Davis: @mykelbdavis

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    CONNECT WITH DANIELLE:
    Instagram: @daniellejmartintv
    Website: https://stan.store/daniellejmartintv

    ABOUT THE AUTHENTIC MEDIA PODCAST:
    The Authentic Media Podcast helps women entrepreneurs and business owners build a visible, profitable brand — on camera, on social media, and on YouTube. You'll learn how to show up confidently on camera, build a personal brand that attracts the right clients, create content that actually grows your business, and go from invisible to in-demand — whether you're starting from scratch or ready to scale.

    New episodes every Monday. Subscribe and Build your Brand with Purpose.

    1 hr 42 min
  • You Don't Need a Huge Salary to Become a Millionaire ft. Britany Freeman

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    You don't need a huge salary to become a millionaire, Britany Freeman did it as a single mom with no blueprint.

    If you think you need six figures or a family handout to build wealth, this will change how you see it.

    Britany Freeman is a realtor, entrepreneur, first-generation millionaire, and single mom. She shares her path from pharmaceutical sales to launching her own brokerage within 30 days of having her son and growing to nearly 50 agents across Houston and Dallas.

    She also shares the pressure of being first-generation, the loss of her father in 2021, and how grief pushed her to pursue entrepreneurship and honor his legacy. 

    In this episode, she opens up about setbacks, including a failed trucking company, near-bankruptcy, and rebuilding after her credit dropped 

    TIMESTAMPS: 

    00:00 Meet Britany Freeman 

    02:13 Rapid Fire Get to Know 

    09:06 Losing Her Father 

    11:20 Pressure of First Gen 

    14:45 Building a Brokerage 

    16:37 Becoming a Millionaire 

    17:02 Losing It All 

    17:46 Multiple Income Streams 

    19:02 Therapy And Grief 

    21:51 What She Wants Known 

    28:13 Money Management Lessons 

    29:50 Stepping Into The Spotlight 

    34:43 Advice For Single Moms

    Connect with Britany: https://www.instagram.com/thebritanyfreeman/

    Support the show

    CONNECT WITH DANIELLE:
    Instagram: @daniellejmartintv
    Website: https://stan.store/daniellejmartintv

    ABOUT THE AUTHENTIC MEDIA PODCAST:
    The Authentic Media Podcast helps women entrepreneurs and business owners build a visible, profitable brand — on camera, on social media, and on YouTube. You'll learn how to show up confidently on camera, build a personal brand that attracts the right clients, create content that actually grows your business, and go from invisible to in-demand — whether you're starting from scratch or ready to scale.

    New episodes every Monday. Subscribe and Build your Brand with Purpose.

    37 min
  • You Don't Have A Revenue Problem: It’s A Clarity Problem

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    In this episode, we feature Olamide Kayode, is a finance executive and advisor who helps business owners make confident financial decisions and build financially strong, operationally sound, and scalable companies.

    Olamide keeps it all the way real about why most stuck entrepreneurs don't actually have a revenue problem; they have a clarity problem. She breaks down the real difference between a bookkeeper who reports on the past and a CFO who sits in the passenger seat helping you see the road ahead, the moment hiring a CFO starts to make sense, and how faith and self-discipline build wealth God's way instead of the world's way.

    In this episode, we discuss:
    - Why feeling stuck is a clarity problem, not a revenue problem
    - Compliance vs. strategy: what a bookkeeper does and what a CFO actually changes
    - When to hire a fractional CFO (and the revenue milestone to watch for)
    - How scarcity mindset and financial fear secretly run your decisions
    - Why self-discipline is a form of self-love — not punishment
    - How to "make up a good story" for your future instead of fixating on stagnation
    - What it means to be an icon: lifting others as you win

    TIMESTAMPS:
    00:00 Money Mistakes Today
    03:44 Rapid Fire Fun
    08:42 Revenue vs Keeping Profit
    10:30 Clarity Before Numbers
    14:19 What a CFO Does
    15:47 When to Hire a CFO
    17:23 Forecasting vs Reacting
    19:44 Compliance vs Strategy
    26:55 Building the CFO Firm
    29:31 Resting in God's Timing
    30:51 Real Estate Origin Story
    34:01 Why Real Estate Works
    35:40 Think Like a CFO
    37:29 Money Mindset Breakthrough
    43:51 ICON Network Mission
    46:16 Wellness and Self Investment
    54:34 Tell Yourself a Good Story

    Connect with Olamide: https://www.instagram.com/yourfavoritewealthcoach/

    🎙️ Authentic Media Podcast — learn how to build a visible and profitable brand and life God's way, not the world's way. 
    🔔 Subscribe for new episodes every week.

    Support the show

    CONNECT WITH DANIELLE:
    Instagram: @daniellejmartintv
    Website: https://stan.store/daniellejmartintv

    ABOUT THE AUTHENTIC MEDIA PODCAST:
    The Authentic Media Podcast helps women entrepreneurs and business owners build a visible, profitable brand — on camera, on social media, and on YouTube. You'll learn how to show up confidently on camera, build a personal brand that attracts the right clients, create content that actually grows your business, and go from invisible to in-demand — whether you're starting from scratch or ready to scale.

    New episodes every Monday. Subscribe and Build your Brand with Purpose.

    58 min
  • The Truth I Was Terrified to Say Out Loud ft. Danielle J Martin

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    Are you afraid to share your true voice? The most powerful personal branding for women entrepreneurs starts with the message you've been too scared to say out loud.

    Many creators struggle with the paradox of being visible online while feeling invisible in their personal lives. As a Christian woman entrepreneur, you might feel the tension between building an authentic personal brand and the fear that keeps you hidden.

    This video addresses the reality of creative calling and how to move past the fear that often masquerades as wisdom. If you've ever felt the urge to walk away from your path, you'll find clarity in these reflections on how to show up authentically.

    In this episode, Danielle J. Martin steps out from behind the interview mic for her first solo episode of the season and shares an update on her Christian personal branding journey. We explore how to stop waiting for the right words and start embracing the habits that actually shape your character.

    Subscribe for weekly personal branding tips and creative mindset breakdowns, and tell me in the comments: what is one message you've been afraid to share?

    In this episode, we discuss:
    - Why she felt invisible — even while reporting on national TV every day
    - The "golden child" roots that taught her to perform instead of be seen
    - What "The Invisible Woman" is — and how she became her
    - How fear disguises itself as wisdom to keep you hidden
    - Why God doesn't call the qualified — He qualifies the called
    - Who your visibility is actually for (hint: it's not about you)

    TIMESTAMPS:
    00:00 The Trailer
    01:03 Meet Danielle Martin
    01:41 Define Your Brand
    03:12 Story You Avoid
    06:58 Faith And Calling
    09:11 Visibility Is Ministry
    12:45 Fear Disguised Wisdom
    16:49 Golden Child Roots
    26:22 Invisible Woman Mission

    Interested in working with Danielle? https://stan.store/daniellejmartintv

    🎙️ Authentic Media Podcast — learn how to build a visible and profitable brand and life God's way, not the world's way. 

    🔔 Subscribe for new episodes every week.


    Support the show

    CONNECT WITH DANIELLE:
    Instagram: @daniellejmartintv
    Website: https://stan.store/daniellejmartintv

    ABOUT THE AUTHENTIC MEDIA PODCAST:
    The Authentic Media Podcast helps women entrepreneurs and business owners build a visible, profitable brand — on camera, on social media, and on YouTube. You'll learn how to show up confidently on camera, build a personal brand that attracts the right clients, create content that actually grows your business, and go from invisible to in-demand — whether you're starting from scratch or ready to scale.

    New episodes every Monday. Subscribe and Build your Brand with Purpose.

    37 min
  • Think Everyone's Judging You? Here's What's Actually Happening ft. Nicole Handy

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    In this episode, we feature Nicole Handy, co-founder of Braden Real Estate Group, one of the largest Black-owned brokerages in Texas, OWN Network star of Family Empire: Houston, and a video marketing strategist helping real estate professionals show up on camera with confidence and strategy.

    Nicole keeps it all the way real about what it took to walk away from corporate America, why 90% of realtors are doing video marketing completely wrong, and what it actually feels like when a national TV show comes knocking, and you almost think it's a joke.

    This one is for every woman who knows she has more in her but keeps waiting for the right moment.

    In this episode, we discuss:

    • Why she was jealous of the FedEx man and what that told her about her career
    • How she built her entire real estate business while still in corporate America
    • Why 90% of realtors do video marketing wrong (and what to do instead)
    • What nobody tells you about being on a national TV show
    • The one negotiation lesson that changed everything
    • Why she went to therapy after Family Empire — and still goes today
    • The surprising thing she collects from every funeral she attends
    • Why she calls herself the most introverted extrovert you'll ever meet

    TIMESTAMPS:

    02:41 From Engineering to Real Estate

    05:35 Quitting Corporate Politics

    06:43 Video Marketing Breakthrough

    12:13 Realtor Content Strategy

    14:50 Entrepreneurship Longevity Gaps

    16:46 Family Legacy Business Roots

    19:18 OWN Show Origin Story

    23:33 Reality TV Behind the Scenes

    24:44 Family Life On Camera

    30:09 Staying Grounded And Enough

    31:05 Unexpected Personal Quirks

    36:10 Advice For Going National

    38:44 Coaching And Passive Income

    Connect with Nicole: https://www.instagram.com/mrsnikkihandy/

    🎙️ Authentic Media Podcast — learn how to build a visible and profitable brand and life God's way, not the world's way. Hosted by Danielle J. Martin, Authentic Media Co.

    🔔 Subscribe for new episodes every week.


    Support the show

    CONNECT WITH DANIELLE:
    Instagram: @daniellejmartintv
    Website: https://stan.store/daniellejmartintv

    ABOUT THE AUTHENTIC MEDIA PODCAST:
    The Authentic Media Podcast helps women entrepreneurs and business owners build a visible, profitable brand — on camera, on social media, and on YouTube. You'll learn how to show up confidently on camera, build a personal brand that attracts the right clients, create content that actually grows your business, and go from invisible to in-demand — whether you're starting from scratch or ready to scale.

    New episodes every Monday. Subscribe and Build your Brand with Purpose.

    50 min
  • The $2.6B Beauty Gap Nobody Talks About ft. Kim Roxie

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    Kim Roxie is a visionary entrepreneur, esthetician, and the trailblazing founder of LAMIK Beauty, a clean color cosmetics brand dedicated to healthy, inclusive, and sustainable makeup. 

    Roxie began her journey in the beauty industry as a college student at Clark Atlanta University, where she worked at a makeup counter. At 21, she was opening her own Makeup shop in the mall in her hometown of Houston, TX. 

    This week, we discuss what it really takes to build a product-based business for the market to make it to the shelves in major department stores.

    In this episode, Kim shares:

    → How rejection redirected her into entrepreneurship
    → Why her mother’s cancer diagnosis inspired her to create cleaner beauty products
    → How she connected with a retired Estée Lauder chemist who wanted to help “right some wrongs”
    → What founders need to know about retail readiness, packaging, and compliance
    → The truth about raising capital, pitch competitions, and venture funding
    → How LAMIK Beauty is expanding through Nordstrom and community impact

    Her philosophy is simple: “Beauty is revealed, not applied.”

    This is more than a makeup conversation. It is a lesson in rejection, resilience, and building the solution you once needed.

    TIMESTAMPS:

    01:57 Makeup Counter Origins
    04:09 Rejection Redirected
    05:19 Meaning Behind LAMIK
    08:37 Creating Clean Beauty
    11:49 Scaling Is Not Easy
    14:22 Retail Readiness
    17:39 Building Community
    19:31 Pitch Wins and Proof
    24:25 Impact and Authentic Roots
    26:48 Identity and Hair Loss
    34:32 Capital and Investment
    35:20 Venture Capital Reality
    44:00 What’s Next for LAMIK

    CONNECT WITH KIM:

    • https://www.instagram.com/thekimroxie/

    New episodes every Monday. Subscribe and build your brand with purpose.

    Support the show

    CONNECT WITH DANIELLE:
    Instagram: @daniellejmartintv
    Website: https://stan.store/daniellejmartintv

    ABOUT THE AUTHENTIC MEDIA PODCAST:
    The Authentic Media Podcast helps women entrepreneurs and business owners build a visible, profitable brand — on camera, on social media, and on YouTube. You'll learn how to show up confidently on camera, build a personal brand that attracts the right clients, create content that actually grows your business, and go from invisible to in-demand — whether you're starting from scratch or ready to scale.

    New episodes every Monday. Subscribe and Build your Brand with Purpose.

    55 min
  • The CEO Mindset That Changes Everything ft. Anthony Flynn

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    This week, we're sitting down with Anthony Flynn, Business & Executive Coach and CEO of Covenant House Texas. He helps CEOs, key executives, and their leadership teams close the gap between strategy and execution.

    In this conversation, Anthony shares the CEO mindset, leadership principles, and personal development habits that took him from a low-income upbringing to the highest levels of business, and why he believes every entrepreneur is one decision away from a completely different life.

    He breaks down:

    → Why most businesses are held back by a leadership gap, not a resource gap 

    → How to identify the one priority that will create the greatest business growth 

    → Why focus and discipline matter more than constantly chasing new ideas 

    → How personal development shapes stronger CEOs and entrepreneurs 

    → Why understanding revenue, cash flow, and financial statements is essential for scaling 

    → How pain, purpose, and faith can fuel meaningful leadership 

    → What business owners must confront before they can grow their company

    Anthony brings more than two decades of experience leading nonprofits. He's helped nonprofits expand their reach to serve over 21,000 clients and consistently grown revenue year over year. 

    In 2025, he took the helm at Covenant House Texas, opening a new 104,000-square-foot campus that houses up to 150 homeless youth every night, turning around an organization and generating 8 figures in revenue within 12 months.

    TIMESTAMPS:

    01:31 Bused to the Suburbs

    04:26 Birth of an Amazing CEO

    06:08 The Power of Focus

    09:09 Priorities and People

    11:49 Revenue Wake Up Call

    15:39 The 3 AM Routine

    29:23 Brand vs Business Profit

    30:51 Cookie Business Formula

    41:20 Self-Development Habits

    43:52 Covenant House 

    This episode is for entrepreneurs, CEOs, business owners, and leaders who want to build a stronger mindset, scale with intention, and turn personal growth into measurable results.

    Subscribe for more conversations about faith, leadership, business growth, personal development, and purpose.

    Connect with Anthony:

    • https://www.amazingceo.com/
    • https://www.linkedin.com/in/flynnanthony/

    #CEOMindset #LeadershipDevelopment #BusinessGrowth #EntrepreneurMindset #BusinessLeadership #PersonalDevelopment #ScaleYourBusiness #CEO #Entrepreneurship #FaithAndBusiness #TheInsidePodcast

    Support the show

    CONNECT WITH DANIELLE:
    Instagram: @daniellejmartintv
    Website: https://stan.store/daniellejmartintv

    ABOUT THE AUTHENTIC MEDIA PODCAST:
    The Authentic Media Podcast helps women entrepreneurs and business owners build a visible, profitable brand — on camera, on social media, and on YouTube. You'll learn how to show up confidently on camera, build a personal brand that attracts the right clients, create content that actually grows your business, and go from invisible to in-demand — whether you're starting from scratch or ready to scale.

    New episodes every Monday. Subscribe and Build your Brand with Purpose.

    1 hr 5 min
  • The Brand Partnership Formula: How She Landed Disney, Target & Carters ft. Laurin Jo Olivo

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    In this episode, we sit down with Laurin Jo Olivo, architect, founder of Content Haus, co-CEO of Batch Content, and UGC creator, to unpack the exact brand partnership formula she used to work with household names while still clocking in at her 9-to-5.

    Laurin shares the three-step process that consistently attracts brand deals, why consistency matters more than follower count, and how she built multiple businesses by pivoting with purpose.

    TIMESTAMPS: 

    00:00 — Meet Laurin Jo: Architect, CEO & Brand Partner 

    02:15 — How She Landed Disney Without a Massive Following 

    08:30 — The "Warm Up" Method for Brand Outreach 

    14:45 — Building Batch Content: The Marketplace for Creators 

    22:00 — Pivoting God's Way, Not the World's Way 

    29:30 — Camp Genesis: Building a Legacy for Young Girls 

    35:00 — Laurin's Best Advice for Christian Women Entrepreneurs

    CONNECT WITH LAURIN JO: 

    • https://www.instagram.com/laurinjo/
    • https://www.instagram.com/contenthaushq/
    • https://www.instagram.com/getbatchedcontent/
    • https://www.instagram.com/gocampgenesis/

    🎧 SUBSCRIBE to the Authentic Media Podcast for weekly conversations with successful women entrepreneurs building visible, profitable brands God's way.

    #BrandPartnerships #WomenEntrepreneurs #ChristianBusiness #UGCcreator #PodcastForWomen #FaithBasedBusiness #ContentCreation #HowToGetBrandDeals #AuthenticMediaPodcast #WomenInBusiness

    Support the show

    CONNECT WITH DANIELLE:
    Instagram: @daniellejmartintv
    Website: https://stan.store/daniellejmartintv

    ABOUT THE AUTHENTIC MEDIA PODCAST:
    The Authentic Media Podcast helps women entrepreneurs and business owners build a visible, profitable brand — on camera, on social media, and on YouTube. You'll learn how to show up confidently on camera, build a personal brand that attracts the right clients, create content that actually grows your business, and go from invisible to in-demand — whether you're starting from scratch or ready to scale.

    New episodes every Monday. Subscribe and Build your Brand with Purpose.

    57 min
  • The Secret Every Ambitious Woman Needs to Hear ft. Dr. Jacquie Baly

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    In this episode, we discuss Dr. Jackie Baly's upcoming book and how real leadership is formed when plans fall apart. Dr. Jacquie Baly is a leadership strategist who advances governance, shapes policy, and builds institutions designed for long-term impact. 

    She is a #1 international best-selling author, an award-winning academic, a seasoned media commentator, and a trusted civic leader.

    As Founder and CEO of BalyProjects, Dr. Baly advises corporations, nonprofits, and public-sector organizations on navigating complex systems, securing strategic partnerships, and advancing initiatives that deliver measurable results and fiscal accountability. 

    She discusses overcoming challenges, including a difficult divorce, navigating spaces where she was often the only one who looked like her, and rejecting imposter syndrome through preparation, discipline, and integrity. 

    The conversation covers mentoring, pivoting, balancing motherhood and career, philanthropy, and defining leadership as leaving institutions and communities better than you found them.

    TIMESTAMPS:

    01:26 When Plans Collapse

    02:20 Many Hats Of Service

    04:26 Career Pivots And Firsts

    08:29 Leading As The Only One

    10:02 Power And Proving Doubters

    11:12 Why She Wrote The Book

    13:30 PhD Fears And Confidence

    17:27 Standing Out In Rooms

    20:25 What Makes A Leader

    22:25 Legacy Integrity Mentorship

    25:49 Purposeful Balance

    26:29 Defining Sustainable Leadership

    33:59 Divorce To Pivot

    35:58 Ambitious Women In Power

    37:50 Immigrant Roots Of Assertiveness

    Connect with Dr. Baly here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-jacquie-baly-2b11501/

    Support the show

    CONNECT WITH DANIELLE:
    Instagram: @daniellejmartintv
    Website: https://stan.store/daniellejmartintv

    ABOUT THE AUTHENTIC MEDIA PODCAST:
    The Authentic Media Podcast helps women entrepreneurs and business owners build a visible, profitable brand — on camera, on social media, and on YouTube. You'll learn how to show up confidently on camera, build a personal brand that attracts the right clients, create content that actually grows your business, and go from invisible to in-demand — whether you're starting from scratch or ready to scale.

    New episodes every Monday. Subscribe and Build your Brand with Purpose.

    50 min
  • The Media Industry Needs You ft. Haddie Djemal

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    What if the story you tell yourself is the only thing standing between you and being fully seen?

    In this episode, we sit down with Haddie Djemal, a former national TV host, producer, and correspondent who spent over a decade in newsrooms before walking away from an industry built on conformity. 

    Today, through Djemal Media & Communications and her partnership with Speakerbox Media, Haddie works as a host-for-hire, media trainer, and consultant, helping leaders and brands communicate better on camera, online, and in conversation.

    Haddie is also the founder of #HireAJournalist, a movement built on one simple truth: every brand needs a journalist in the room. In this conversation, she and Danielle pull back the curtain on what the media industry doesn't want you to know, and why everyone, not just journalists, needs to start thinking like their own media company.

    In this episode, we unpack:

    • The unspoken pressure to be "digestible" on camera, and why Haddie refused to keep shrinking
    • What it feels like when an industry slowly erodes your identity
    • Why "I am the media" is the mindset shift every entrepreneur and creator needs right now
    • How to rewrite your internal narrative so your external story finally aligns
    • The difference between performing for an audience and actually being seen

    TIMESTAMPS:

    02:44 Authenticity Over Performance

    03:43 Newsroom Conformity Pressures

    05:46 When the Industry Erodes You

    09:56 The Glamour vs Reality of TV

    11:30 You Are the Media

    14:38 Hire a Journalist Mindset

    17:06 Build Your Digital House

    19:41 Inner Narrative to Outer Impact

    25:17 Owning Your Story

    25:55 TV Dreams to Journalism

    28:08 Craving to Be Seen

    30:47 Body of Work Breakthrough

    32:42 Culture Shift in Media

    41:03 Media Training as Self Work

    42:20 Stop Waiting, Use Your Voice

    Connect with Haddie: 

    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/haddiethehost/

    Support the show

    CONNECT WITH DANIELLE:
    Instagram: @daniellejmartintv
    Website: https://stan.store/daniellejmartintv

    ABOUT THE AUTHENTIC MEDIA PODCAST:
    The Authentic Media Podcast helps women entrepreneurs and business owners build a visible, profitable brand — on camera, on social media, and on YouTube. You'll learn how to show up confidently on camera, build a personal brand that attracts the right clients, create content that actually grows your business, and go from invisible to in-demand — whether you're starting from scratch or ready to scale.

    New episodes every Monday. Subscribe and Build your Brand with Purpose.

    53 min

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