Madrid has been placed in (partial) lockdown once again. In this episode I explore how this come about in two very different interviews.

Firstly, I speak with Sara Soto, Secretary of the Young Socialists of Vallecas. Here we talk about how the response to lockdown on the 18th September and the effects it has had over the past two weeks. We also discuss some of the inequalities that were already in the area but have been made worse by the pandemic.

Following on from this I catch up with Simon Hunter from El Pais in English. Here Simon tells me about the Que podcast; we also discuss the management of the pandemic from several points of view, and lastly we discuss the newest celebrity in Spain: James Rhodes.