Lane chats with Dev Agrawal— content creator & Developer Advocate at Clerk! Tune in as they discuss DevRel, authentication vs. authorization, JWT, and so much more in this episode.
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(00:50) - Is Dev's name really Dev?(02:10) - What is it about writing code that scares Dev?(02:50) - JavaScript is one of the worst with dependencies(03:09) - Dev's ideal world(03:20) - .NET and Blazor(03:59) - Blazor explained(04:36) - WASM on the Front-end(05:04) - Is Blazor unique to C# ?(06:11) - What is a DevRel?(08:07) - Lane's experience(09:13) - You shouldn't roll your own Auth(11:59) - Undifferentiated work(13:56) - Authentication vs Authorization(16:19) - Regarding Auth, which is a bigger pain point for companies(16:48) - Pain points of Authorization(18:38) - Pain Points of Authentication(20:23) - Lane's perspective(22:29) - Using a third party for authorization(24:27) - Is Clerk used for both Authentication and Authorization?(26:16) - JWT explained(28:39) - Where is the users' data stored?(29:27) - Features are developed as needed(29:52) - Auth coupling to the rest of the system(30:16) - Webhooks listeners to access user session data(31:03) - Postgres foreign-data wrapper(32:09) - Microservices sharing databases(34:29) - CQRS(37:37) - Average size of a company that uses Clerk(40:50) - What are the most used ways to sign-in(42:04) - Stances on passwords(46:56) - OAuth(50:33) - Why Lane dropped Sign-in with Twitter/X(51:14) - What do popular services usually use?(52:24) - Sign-in with Google(57:39) - Unpopular opinion on Auth related web architecture(01:00:17) - 2 ways of doing authentication(01:05:59) - Where to find Dev