Bad Wives Club

By Bleav, Liz Fragala + Libby PisanoParenting Kids & Family

Bad Wives Club episodes

October 01 Raising Kids in a World of Instant Gratification | 119
How do we teach kids patience and hard work when everything they want is one click away? This week on Bad Wives Club, we’re talking about parenting in a world of instant gratification, teaching kids responsibility, and getting them involved in household chores.
Liz shares how her Skylight calendar is helping organize family routines and motivate her kids to pitch in. We compare chore charts and reward systems for kids, the ones that work, the ones that flop, and why Libby’s pretty much always fall apart. Plus, why does everyone want to be “helper of the day” at school but never at home?!
We also share some big podcast news: we hired our first manager! Libby reflects on being a mom of three, how motherhood feels different with her third baby. She also opens up about her August “crash out,” postpartum overwhelm, and the mental load of motherhood long after the newborn stage.
An honest, funny conversation about raising responsible kids, managing life as working moms, and trying to teach patience when we’re running out of it ourselves.
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32 min
September 24 Kelly Brabants Part 2: The Collection She Never Gave Up On | 118
This is part two of our conversation with our sister and BFF, Kelly Brabants Gallo, founder and CEO of Booty by Brabants. In part one, Kelly opened up about her journey into motherhood and marriage, her wellness approach as a new mom, and her grief and healing after losing her baby girl Celine in 2024. So many of you have reached out to us & Kelly with the most heartfelt DMs telling us it gave you hope that you can get through the hardest seasons - and truly, that's what this podcast is all about.
This week, the conversation is all about BBB (with a little surprise at the end). It's really for the Booty by Brabants community, the customers who have been with Kelly since day one. She takes us behind the scenes of a new chapter for the business: a collection she's been working to perfect since 2017. It's a fabric so many of you already know and love, and it's finally returning September 30 (we're. freaking. out.)
Kelly gets honest about the hardships behind this collection, why it took so long, how she got here, and why she feels so confident and excited about it now. Whether you're an entrepreneur, love a good small business story, or want to know what really goes into building a women-owned brand, this is a reminder of why supporting small matters. The care and integrity are real.
Stay until the end. Kelly's husband joins for a rapid fire round, shares some unbelievable marriage advice, and takes a moment to thank the BBB community for being there for their family over the past couple of years. He gets choked up, and honestly, so did we. The most special way to close out our two-part episode.
The new collection launches September 30. Shop at bootybybrabants.com
SHOP & CONNECT
Follow Kelly + Booty by Brabants for launch updates, free live workouts, and event details.
DATES MENTIONED
• September 30: First Super Stretch drop; a second drop is planned for October.
• October 24: Kelly’s Park Plaza workout in Boston, honoring Celine and benefiting March of Dimes. Follow Kelly for registration updates.
COME HANG WITH US
Get the inside scoop—subscribe to Bad Wives Club on Substack.
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We’re so grateful you’re here. Sharing this episode with a friend or leaving a rating or review helps more people find the club. Thank you for supporting us!!

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47 min
September 17One Day At A Time: Grief, Healing + Motherhood with Kelly Brabants Gallo Pt. 1 | 117
This week, we’re joined by Kelly Brabants Gallo, founder of Booty by Brabants, Body by Brabants and The Beehive Studio, for an honest conversation about motherhood, infant loss, miscarriage, trying to conceive, and pregnancy after loss.
Kelly shares what her fitness routine looks like today, including how she maximizes a short 20-minute workout, adjusts movement for different bodies and seasons of life, and prioritizes hydration, sleep, strength training, and consistency. She also opens up about balancing motherhood with being an entrepreneur and business owner, setting boundaries, and learning not to overplan every part of life.
Kelly reflects on finding the hope and courage to try to conceive again after losing her daughter, Celine. She discusses the loneliness of miscarriage and TTC, the fear she carried throughout her subsequent pregnancy, and how EMDR therapy helped her process trauma and prepare to welcome her son, Troy.
Now four months postpartum, Kelly talks about adjusting to parenthood, returning to her businesses when she felt ready, communicating with her husband, and learning how to reconnect after disagreements. It’s a powerful conversation about resilience, presence, fitness, relationships, pregnancy after loss, and holding both grief and hope both at the same time.
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1 hr 5 min
September 10Back to School, Mom Anxiety and Sharing the Morning Chaos | 116
School is back, the lunchboxes need packing, and someone’s crying at drop-off—possibly us. Liz + Libby are putting you on speaker for an honest catch-up about back-to-school routines, mom anxiety, and sharing the morning chaos with our husbands. We’re answering your parenting questions, catching up on Liz’s Italy trip, and figuring out this new season of motherhood together.
This week on Bad Wives Club, we're talking about:
• Starting kindergarten, emotional preschool drop-offs, and settling into school-year routines
• What we’re actually packing in our kids’ lunches
• Sharing morning responsibilities with our husbands and managing the mental load of parenting
• Kids’ screen time and the anxiety of worrying something could happen to your children
• Going from one kid to two and traveling with babies
• Finding a balance between fitness, nutrition, and enjoying your life
• Liz’s Italy recap and the “nappuccino” hangover conversation we apparently needed to have
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Love hanging with us? Support the sponsors who help make Bad Wives Club possible.
Nutre Meals — Make busy lunches and weeknight dinners a little easier. Use code BWC40 for 40% off your first order.

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Supporting our sponsors helps support the show—thank you for showing them some love.
COME HANG WITH US
Follow Bad Wives Club on Instagram + TikTok, and follow the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify so you never miss an episode.
Loved this episode? Send it to the friend who needs to hear it—and leave us a 5-star review!

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53 min
August 20Grief, Marriage and Taking the Trip with Liz and Jeff Fragala | 115
The kids are young. Work is busy. There’s always a reason to put the trip—and time together—off, but after losing both of his parents, Jeff Fragala has a different perspective on waiting for “someday.”
SPECIAL GUEST: Jeff Fragala, Liz’s husband
This week on Bad Wives Club, Liz + Jeff Fragala are talking about:
• Grief after losing both parents and how loss changes your priorities
• Prioritizing your marriage while raising a family
• Planning their first trip to Europe together—Positano, Italy!
• Making time for each other without waiting for the perfect moment
An honest conversation about grief, marriage, and choosing to make memories with the people you love.
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Support the sponsors who help make Bad Wives Club possible.
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COME HANG WITH US
We’re so grateful you’re here and part of the Bad Wives Club community. Join the club on Instagram + TikTok, and follow the podcast where you listen to podcasts!
If this conversation meant something to you, we’d love for you to share it with someone who might need it. And if you have a moment to leave a 5-star rating or review, we’d be so appreciative—it helps more people find us. Thank you for listening and supporting the show.

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21 min
August 13The Lindsay Clancy Trial: Postpartum Mental Health with Therapist Alexandria Hershman | 114
“Something isn’t right. I need help.” Why is that so hard for so many moms to say? The conversation surrounding the Lindsay Clancy trial brings us to an important discussion about postpartum mental health, recognizing warning signs, and helping mothers feel safe asking for support.
SPECIAL GUEST: Alexandria “Allie” Hershman, licensed clinical therapist
This week on Bad Wives Club, Liz Fragala + Libby Pisano are talking about:
• Baby blues, postpartum depression, postpartum anxiety, postpartum OCD, and postpartum psychosis
• Intrusive thoughts versus command hallucinations—and recognizing when urgent help is needed
• Medication, psychiatric care, and gaps in postpartum screening and support
• The fear of speaking up and how partners, family, and friends can step in proactively
We’re sharing personal experiences and focusing on maternal mental health education and support, without assessing Lindsay Clancy’s diagnosis or legal case.
CONNECT WITH ALLIE
alexandriahershman.com
Instagram: @alexandriahershman + @allie_jaie
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Support the sponsors who help make Bad Wives Club possible.
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We’re so grateful you’re here and part of the Bad Wives Club community. Join the club on Instagram + TikTok, and follow the podcast!
If this conversation meant something to you, we’d love for you to share it with someone who might need it. And if you have a moment to leave a 5-star rating or review, we’d be so appreciative—it helps more people find us. Thank you for listening and supporting the show.

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54 min
August 06Going Back to Work After Maternity Leave: Guilt & New Routines | 113
Excited to go back to work—and feeling guilty about it? Libby’s six months of maternity leave are coming to an end, and we’re talking about all the feelings that can exist at once: anticipation, anxiety, and the bittersweet reality of leaving your baby.
This week on Bad Wives Club, Liz Fragala + Libby Pisano are talking about:
• Returning to work after maternity leave and navigating mom guilt
• The anxiety and excitement of being away from your baby
• Adjusting family schedules and balancing work and motherhood
• Their reactions to the Lindsay Clancy trial at the time of recording
• Why Netflix’s I Will Find You has become their latest obsession
If you’re preparing to return to work or finding your rhythm as a working mom, you’re in good company.
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No perfect wives or moms required—we’re figuring it out together, and we’re so glad you’re here. Join us on Instagram + TikTok, and follow Bad Wives Club on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.
Know a mom heading back to work? We’d love for you to send this episode her way. And if you’re enjoying the show, we’d be so grateful for a 5-star rating or review—it helps more people find the club. Thank you for being part of it.

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42 min
July 30Too Tired to Socialize? Motherhood & the Guilt of Saying No | 112
Love your friends. Still hoping someone cancels the plans? Libby is in her “family bubble” era, and we’re talking about the phase of motherhood where another invitation feels like another thing on the to-do list.
This week on Bad Wives Club, Liz Fragala + Libby Pisano are talking about:
• Feeling too tired to socialize while juggling kids, the house, and everyday life
• Mom guilt, saying no to plans, and feeling like you should be more social
• Whether it’s motherhood burnout, getting older, or changing priorities
• Setting boundaries and making room for quiet time at home with your family
For the mom who loves her people but wants to be home in sweatpants by 6 PM—we get it.
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A club you can join from your couch? You’re in the right place. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us on Instagram + TikTok, and follow Bad Wives Club on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.
If this sounded like your group chat, we’d love for you to share it with your friends—no plans required. And if you have a moment to leave a 5-star rating or review, we’d be so grateful. It helps more people find the club. Thank you for listening and supporting us.
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37 min
July 23Summer Mom Routines: Working vs. Staying Home with the Kids | 111
Summer with kids: who’s working, who’s at camp, and how are we getting everyone out the door? Liz + Libby walk through their real daily routines, from the first coffee to the last bedtime, while juggling two very different schedules.
This week on Bad Wives Club, Liz Fragala + Libby Pisano are talking about:
• Working-mom summer routines: balancing work, camp drop-offs, and pick-ups
• Life at home during Libby’s final weeks of maternity leave with baby Sonny and her two older boys
• Caring for a baby while keeping up with the house and everyone’s schedules
• Getting through dinner, bedtime, and everything in between
An honest day-in-the-life conversation about working, staying home with kids, and the everyday logistics of summer parenting.
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Whether you’re listening on your commute, pushing the stroller, or finally sitting down after bedtime, we’re so glad you’re here. Join us on Instagram + TikTok, and follow Bad Wives Club on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.
Have a friend juggling the summer shuffle, too? We’d love for you to send this episode her way. And if you have a moment to leave a 5-star rating or review, we’d be so appreciative—it helps more people find the club. Thank you for making us part of your day.
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29 min
July 09 When Can Kids Play Outside Alone? Parenting Q+A | 110
Libby is a ’90s mom. Liz is our resident “wannabe crunchy” mom. This week, we’re comparing parenting styles and answering your questions about kids’ independence, screen time, and the everyday decisions that don’t come with a handbook.
This week on Bad Wives Club, Liz + Libby talk about:
• When we’d let kids play outside without parents and use public bathrooms alone
• Our different parenting styles and views on outdoor free play
• Pre-vacation arguments and the mental load of family travel
• Weekend spending, toddler bed transitions, and favorite kids’ toys
• Nintendo Switch, screen time, and introducing kids to gaming
JOIN THE CLUB
No perfect wives or moms required—we’re figuring it out together, and we’re so grateful you’re here. Join us on Instagram + TikTok, and follow Bad Wives Club on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.
If this conversation meant something to you, we’d love for you to share it with a friend. And if you have a moment to leave a 5-star rating or review, we’d be so appreciative—it helps more people find the club. Thank you for listening and supporting us.
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35 min

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Welcome to The Bad Wives Club! We’re Libby & Liz — two best friends bringing our phone conversations straight to your speakers. We talk about the good, the bad, and the real life of marriage and…