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  • 306. GAY FOR MICHAEL with Lo

    In this episode of Bad Words, Janice (@godhasnotgiven) Melanie (@climbholamel), and guest host Lo (@lmoshwhipp) dive deep into chapters 13-15 of Francine Rivers' 'Redeeming Love.' The hosts discuss the troubling portrayals of relationships, victim-blaming, and the problematic theology underlying the narrative. They analyze the characters' actions, particularly the disturbing dynamics between Angel and Michael, as well as Paul’s reprehensible behavior. The conversation also touches on how the book reflects evangelical views on love and trauma, highlighting the harmful messages and poor writing that make 'Redeeming Love' a godawful read.


    00:00 Introduction and Recap

    01:28 Hosts Introduction

    03:35 Discussion on 'Redeeming Love'

    07:20 Analyzing Characters and Themes

    09:29 Paul's Return and Reactions

    11:23 Angel's Trauma and Responses

    41:54 Curiosity About the Author's Intentions

    43:22 Analyzing Angel's Desire for Freedom

    44:03 Trauma Responses and Evangelical Love

    52:31 Paul's Assault and Its Implications

    01:04:29 Angel's Return to Paradise

    01:15:14 The Works: A Romance Novel Critique

    01:15:23 Goodreads Reviews and Censorship

    01:16:59 The Big Rescue: A Violent Escape

    01:19:14 Michael's Heroic Violence

    01:24:26 Angel's Trauma and Fear

    01:26:12 Paul's Betrayal and Michael's Assumptions

    01:28:12 Michael's Misguided Love

    01:34:32 Evangelical Love Bombing

    01:39:18 Francine Rivers' Writing and Critique

    01:51:41 Final Thoughts and Reflections

    1 hr 57 min
  • 305. SAY MY NAME with Marla

    In this episode of Bad Words, Janice (@godhasnotgiven) and Melanie (@climbholamel) are joined by Marla Taviano (@marlataviano) to delve into the deeply flawed narrative and characters of Francine Rivers' 'Redeeming Love'. They revisit Chapters 10 -12, discussing Angel's traumatic recuperation, the problematic character of Michael Hosea, and the inconsistencies in Rivers' portrayal of evangelical values and marriage. With personal anecdotes, humorous critique, and serious analysis, they explore how the book's toxic themes reflect a broader evangelical mindset. The episode is a blend of insightful discussion, personal reflections, and comedic moments, giving audiences a comprehensive critique of the so-called 'Christian Romance'.


    00:00 Introduction and Recap

    00:16 Angel's Recovery and Resentment

    01:16 Meet the Hosts

    02:56 Marla's Journey with Evangelical Christianity

    04:13 Rediscovering 'Redeeming Love'

    05:32 Critique of Christian Romance Novels

    14:30 Angel's Struggle for Independence

    18:29 Theological Reflections and Personal Stories

    25:19 Questioning God's Love and Intentions

    41:23 Exploring Free Will and Divine Choices

    42:43 Questioning God's Insecurity

    44:14 Analyzing Love and Awareness

    44:49 Michael's Misguided Actions

    47:09 Critique of Francine's Writing

    48:35 The Problematic Portrayal of Angel

    49:54 Michael's Control and Intimacy Issues

    01:07:04 The Racism in the Book

    01:12:27 Final Thoughts and Reflections

    1 hr 19 min
  • 304. CONNOR HOSEA with Dr. Laura

    In this episode of Bad Words, Janice and Dr. Laura Anderson dive deep into the 1997 Christian romance novel 'Redeeming Love' by Francine Rivers. They recount the events leading up to Chapters 7-9, critique the problematic portrayal of women, and discuss the intersections of purity culture, consent, and power dynamics. Alongside humorous takes, the hosts tackle serious conversations about the book's impact on evangelical thought and women's autonomy. Join in as they uncover the unsettling themes hidden within this supposedly romantic tale.

    00:00 Introduction to Redeeming Love

    00:14 Recap of Previous Events

    00:37 Angel's Struggles and Michael's Persistence

    01:28 Meet the Hosts: Janice and Laura

    02:02 Laura's Personal Connection to the Book

    03:01 Revisiting Redeeming Love: A Critical Perspective

    09:31 Angel's Recovery and New Life with Michael

    10:47 Analyzing the Book's Themes and Writing

    26:23 The Voice of God and Personal Autonomy

    35:36 The Bondage of Salvation

    37:38 Analyzing Michael Hosea

    42:49 The Concept of Choice

    51:38 Purity Culture and Historical Context

    55:28 Critique of Francine Rivers' Writing

    01:06:16 Final Thoughts and Recommendations

    1 hr 11 min
  • 303. THE HOT ONE AND HOT MILK with Stephen

    Join Janice (@godhasnotgiven), Melanie (@climbholamel) and Stephen (@stephengarton) as they delve into chapters 4 thru 6 of Francine Rivers’ questionable “romance” novel 'Redeeming Love.' Set in 1850s California, this episode covers Angel, an 18-year-old prostitute, and an odd marriage proposal from a farmer named Michael Hosea. Discussions also cover the book's problematic elements, including issues around consent, purity culture, and the unrealistic and non-progressive portrayal of characters. Despite the heavy and often outrageous content, the hosts provide detailed analysis and humorous commentary.

    00:00 Introduction: Contrasting Lives

    00:16 Setting the Scene: California 1850

    00:32 Michael's Divine Encounter

    01:18 Stephen's Reluctant Review

    02:03 Discussing Francine Rivers' Works

    06:05 Angel's Struggles and Michael's Persistence

    08:32 The Wedding and Its Aftermath

    09:46 Analyzing Character Dynamics

    10:15 The Milk Controversy

    15:55 Currency Confusion: Gold Dust and Dollars

    38:15 Michael's Frustration and Angel's Defiance

    47:08 The Value of Carrots and Milk

    47:32 Plot Progression and Character Analysis

    48:27 Predicting the Rescue

    50:08 Michael's Journey and Angel's Fate

    52:04 The Confrontation and Rescue

    56:07 The Non-Consensual Wedding

    01:00:16 Analyzing the Story's Themes

    01:07:02 Critique of the Book's Audience and Message

    01:21:16 Final Thoughts and Reflections

    1 hr 27 min
  • 302. MORE THAN TRASH with Jenna

    In this episode of Bad Words, hosts Janice (@godhasnotgiven), Melanie (@climbholamel) and Jenna (@jencug) dissect the first three chapters of Francine Rivers' novel 'Redeeming Love'. They explore themes relating to the portrayal of women, the inherent guilt and shame promoted by purity culture, and the dynamics between male and female characters in the book. While also touching on the unrealistic and problematic aspects of the narrative, the discussion provides a critical lens on how evangelical ideology influences literature and society. Join the conversation as they uncover the hidden layers and implications of 'Redeeming Love'.

    1 hr 7 min
  • 301. Redeeming Love: A SLOPPY SITUATION

    This episode of 'Bad Words' kicks off Season 3 with hosts Janice (@godhasnotgiven) and Melanie (@climbholamel) diving into their first admitted fiction book, 'Redeeming Love' by Francine Rivers.

    The prologue reveals the tragic backstory of Sarah/Angel, exploring her complex relationships with her mother, absent father, and the traumas she faces. The hosts critique the literary value, character development, and potential messages to the 21st-century evangelical audience. The episode sets the stage for a detailed analysis of the book’s themes, characters, and narrative style.

    1 hr 24 min
  • 225. KENDERELLA

    Are you a Barbie girl in a Barbie world or a Cinderella in an Eldredge fever dream?. Prepare to RSVP for an invitation you never wanted as we give chapter 12 of Captivating the read that it deserves. 

    BAD BOOK: Captivating

    Chapter: 12 of 12 | An Irreplaceable Role

    Book Club Member: Chelsea

    Instagram |@chelseakimlong 

    1 hr 37 min
  • 224. A SINGLE SENTENCE

    It’s a Neverending Story of how God speaks to John and only John about everything you need to know. Get ready to get all you need from a single sentence as we give chapter 11 of Wild At Heart the read that it deserves. (Finally 👀)

    BAD BOOK: Wild At Heart

    Chapter: 11 of 12 | An Adventure to Live

    Book Club Member: Melanie

    Instagram | @climbholamel

    1 hr 27 min
  • 223. DIZZY SPELLS OF EXCLAMATION POINTS!

    If you wanna be a Princess Bride, you better be ready to fight like a Lord of the [wedding] rings! Prepare to be bummed out by the Eldredge marriage as we give chapter 11 of Captivating the read that it deserves!

    BAD BOOK: Captivating

    Chapter: 11 of 12 | Warrior Princesses

    Book Club Member: Melanie

    Instagram | @climbholamel

    1 hr 32 min
  • 222. WHITE WALLS OF JERICHO

    A special bonus episode because bad things happen to words outside of books too. So we're talking about bad worship remakes, demonic takes and the bad theology beneath it all. (Early and with no ads for the People of Jod. Thank you ❤️)

    BAD W🤬RDS: The Jericho -NO! "KIndgom Remake"

    ACTUAL ART: JERICHO by Iniko

    Book Club Member: Ashlee'

    Instagram |@unashamedly_ashlee

    1 hr 56 min

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An exvangelical podcast giving toxic theology the read it deserves by taking another look at some of the bad books given major influence in evangelical christianity.

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